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Maolek
kay, tutuhon? Manlisto hao- listo hao?
Okay
ah
okay
(chumåchalek)
Dispensa
kay, bai bai entrodusen maisa ha' yu' ta'lo
Guåhu si Fu'una Sanz, ma'estran CHamoru yu' giya PC Lujan
ah, bente siette åños yu' ya taotao Yo'ña yu'
Familian Listo si nanå-hu
yan familian Talo' i si tatå-hu ginen Sinahånña
okay, ah yan hågu siñora, kao siña un entrodusen maisa hao?
Kao, kao guaha mañe'lu-mu?
Oh lao lao dos ha' dos ha' hamyo
O mås ki hågu?
Kuånto put todu na famagu'on?
sais
ti manentresao hamyo?
lao
Lao kao kao ma faisen hamyo kao malago' tungo' put este
hunggan
hunggan
oh
pues kao guaha otro cho'cho'-ñiha pat ennao ha' bidan-ñiñiha
"ohh, okay"
yan mañåsaga hamyo giya Ma'ina
ennao i båndan nanå-mu pat si tatå-mu
taotao månu si nanå-mu
oh... oh pues hihot hihot ha'
mhmm
okay
ah
pues kao hagas hao ha' fumino' CHamoru?
Gi eskuela?
mhmm
Kao makkat?
ya hågu un fa'nå'gue si tatå-hu?
Taiguihi eskuela lokkue'
Ngai'an ah Anggen ti lalålo', Ngai'an na mafañågu hao?
"nineteen forty-seven"
Kao hågu i-- i mås åmko'?
oh
"okay"
ahh
"kay"
hu taitai i kuestion guini
kao un tungo' håfa i nå'an familiå-mu pat håfa mås matungo'-ñiha?
chå? kalan i gimen?
ha! Familian Lachi?
[laughing]
Enna'?
Familian CHå yan familian Lache
Wow ni ngai'an na u hungok familian CHå yan familian Lachi
hunggan
ahh
Okay esta hu faisen este
okay
ah okay
Tåtte para i suruhåna, håyi humåhanao para i suruhåna håfa na klåsen taotao?
Håfa siha na rasón ni mambisísita?
mmhm
famagu'on?
Oh fine'nana
wow
[chumåchalek]
[chumåchalek]
uhm Pues taimanu ni ma'apåpasi siha?
Pues håfa na klåsi
Håfa-- Kalan-- Kao ma nåna'i nengkanno' pat
Siña ma apåsi
mmhm
Okay,ah pues ngai'an na manhånao para si påle' ya ngai'an na ma hånao para i suruhåna?
Pues si påle'
Hunggan
kay
ah
taimanu na un tungo' put i åmot put-- pat i kinalamten suruhåna?
Kao- kao un hongge ni i åmot-ñiha?
Hunggan
mmhm
ah taimanu na ma tungo' este na kinalamten put suruhåna
Bula manmalångu
ah Pues sa' håfa mohon na na ti manmalago'
hågu pat i mañe'lu-mu para u saonao i suruhåna?
Ya-
Hunggan, hunggan
hunggan
parehu i mañe'lu-mu lokkue' i sinenten-ñiha?
Hunggan
ahm
"kay" nangga
"okay" kao kao guaha
"kay" listo sinora? hunggan?
ah Kao guaha tiningo' pat fina'nå'gue na malago' na un tungo' på'go sa' guaha minaolek-ña?
Kao guaha na malago' un tungo' på'go?
[chumåchalek] Tåya'?
"kay" Pues i , kao hågu un bisista suruhåna anggen malångu hao pat i--
Åhe'
Kao un tungo' otro na suruhåna yan suruhånu?
mmhm
hunggan
Taotao Guåhan gue'?
ah okay kao guaha
ah
Nangga
Håfa na båndan yo'åmte ni' ti ma såsangan gi me'nan-miyu
Kalan sikretu? Kao-
mmhm
Hunggan, ilek-ña guini "what parts were kept secret from"?
Hunggan, kao
Hunggan
Tåya' tiningo'-mu-s?
sa' ti ma sangåni hao no?
"Kay", ah på'go na tiempo, håfa mohon påtten yo'åmte siha?
Gi gi kuminidåt, gi familia, yan taiguennao siha?
Kao kao kao mohon siña u lå'la' gi mamaila' na tiempo?
Kao siempre låla'la' ha' i suruhå-- "you know" i i kinalamten i suruhåna?
Ginen i i manhoben
ah, Kao guaha i parehu-ña i suruhåna yan i i mediku?
Parehu
Okay ngai-- okay pues, i manmalångu na taotao, ngai'an para u falak i mediku ya ngai'an para u falak i suruhåna? Kao un tung--
Pues i i manmalångu siha, kao kao manmalak i mediku fine'nana pues mambisita i suruhånu?
Kao, kao guaha ahm ma susedi na ti siña ma homlo' i taotao?
ya pues pa u sångan, "'okay', sigi para i mediku sa' ti siña hu ayuda hao"
Kao guaha
"Okay" ah pues
yanggen påtgon hao, kao kao un ayúyuda si nanå-hu pat si tatå-mu?
Åhe'
mm-hm
Hågu un ayúyuda?
ah
ah, kao un tungo' håfa bidan-ñíñiha åntes måtto i taotao, åntes di u måtto i taotao?
Tåya', tåya' klåsen para u ma pripåra
åhe'
ah
kay
Ilek-ña guini, Kao manlálasa hao? Lao ilek-mu åhe', noh?
Kay, kao un tungo' håyi mås makkat para u ma åmte?
Håfa na klåsen chetnot, chetnot pat taotao "yeah"?
Kao un un tungo' håfa na klåsen chetnot, m-- uh makkat para u åmte?
ah
Håfa hinasso-mu nu i amot yan i yo'åmte ginen sanlågu
Uh, "kay", gi fino' English "what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?"
"kay"
maolek ha'
ah kao guaha finiho' siha ni ti un húhungok på'go?
kalan fi-- fino' suruhåna fino' suruhånu na klåsen palåbra
Finiho' siha
mmhm klås-- klåsen kuentos
mmhm
Ni ti un húhungok på'go
mmhm
Kao un tungo' ah
klåsen kuentos para i manlálasa ha' na bånda?
mmhm
Kao kao parehu todu klåsen lasa?
"okay, let me--"
Kao guaha nå'an ånti ni un tungo' ginen mañaina-mu?
ånti
kalan aniti, espiritu
kalan taiguennao
na guaha ga'chong
Hunggan
Kao kao kao guaha na ilek-ñiha na ma kuentútusi i ånte pat i taotaomo'na?
kao kao ilek-ña siña manli'e'?
"Kay", k-- kao guaha uh tiempo pat såkkan
ni ma chocho'gue uh
kalan kao guaha tiempo gi såkkan ni ni' ma-- pa ma cho'gue
espesiåt na kinalamten
ah
kay fa'na'an ennao
todu i kuestión
hunggan
uh
[chumåchalek]
"okay" uh, este ha' put hågu på'go uh pat sa' malago' bai bai faisen hao ha' pues uh
mafañågu hao "nineteen forty-seven" pues amånu muskuela hao?
hunggan
guini?
GCC pat
Unibetsidat?
"ohh"
Pues amånu na macho'cho' hao?
Håfa na klåsen cho'cho'?
"ohh"
ya umasågua
[chumåchalek]
Kao guaha kao guaha famagu'on-mu?
[chumåchalek]
Pues pues si nanå-mu yan si tatå-mu, kao un tungo' taimanu umásodda' siha?
"ohh"
mmhm
Pues ennao ha' sa'--
Ha lasa si nanå-mu?
Guiya si nanå-mu
"ohh!"
hunggan
[chumåchalek]
Kao un tungo' kuåntos åños siha?
[chumåchalek]
[chumåchalek]
Håfa na såkkan i mafañågu si nanå-mu yan si tatå-mu
"wow"
ahh dispensa
Kao guaha kuestión-miyu?
ta'lo, ta'lo "yeah"
lao ha hungok i kareta?
maseha håfa na ora manmåfatto pat
"ohh"
manmonhåyan
hunggan, hunggan
mm-mm
mm-mm
Guåhu si Bernadita Terlaje, lao ya-hu na bai ma'ågang Benit
ya taotao Ma'ina yu'
Mafañågu hu' "and" mapoksai hu' Ma'ina
pes taotao Tamuneng hu' på'go
ya nu ahm, si nanå-hu Rihina
si tatå-hu Jesus
Rehina Måfnas Terlaje
Jesus Sålas Terlaje "both of them"
todu i dos nu suruhånu "and" suruhåna
[clearing throat]
si nanå-hu
nu manå'amte
nu ayi åmot
åmot pa i famagu'on
yan nu manlálasa'
anggen se'yon hao "or" håfa chetnot-mu manlálasa
lao pinat famagu'on ha å'amte
si tatå-hu
"topical"
manpalalálai'i åmot anggen guaha chetnot
guiya ayu bidåda-ña
pus nu
ayu ayu ha'
ayu mås nu bidan-ñiñiha i
i pa u fanåmte
famagu'on si nanå-hu
"primarily" si nanå-hu
mås nu ahm
mås nu ah manå'amte ki si tatå-hu
håssan si tatå-hu na manåmte solo yi chetnot
si nanå-hu
nu ahm bula manmalálasa
bula manmalálasa gi an aksidente hao, manlálasa
anggen nu se'yon hao yi... kalan
håfa nu na minahetok
ha ch-- ha lálasa hao para u na'suha iyo-mu nu "tension" an ah anggen nu
an ah anggen nu
anggen ah
anggen un "sprain" hao, nai? Anggen nu appleng i addeng-mu
ah
ni lálasa hao på'go ni ayu para u para u
ah
"primarily" nu i "muscle" ah
ha na'--
ha na'súsuha i "tension" gi "muscle" nai
pus ayu pus i nu kana' kada diha
guaha taotao giya håmi man- manmåfatto ni pa u fanma'åmte
an famagu'on
kana' kana'-- eyi i mås manmalångu nu ah eyi flema
ni ti siña esta nu
nina'huyong ni i amot i mediku
ha nåna'yi åmot para u
para u na'huyong i flema
gi i patgon
pus bula na'fanhomlo' si nanå-hu bula na'fanhomlo'
"so"
Nu, unu na che'lu-hu, lao esta måtai, mañoñotne åmot
lao ah
yan mañoñotne åmot nanå-hu "and" tatå-hu nai lao ma chulíli'i guatu ni hagon
puru siha hågon nu
åmot na hågon ha sósotne
pus unu na che'lu-hu nu mañó-- mañósotne eståba nai lao ha ti ah
ti ha chule' ah
månu ha' na guaha malago' åmot
ya må ha-- må-- månu ha' na månao mañule' åmot
ayu na mañóñotne
lao ti kada diha ha chocho'gue ayu
lao esta taigue ayu na che'lu
lao guiya ha' guiya ha' guiya ha' kåsi k-- guiya kåsi nu
tumattiyi si nanå-hu
Ham ha-- mås, åhe', ti hami ni i pumalu, ti hami en tattiyi
ti ha na'-- ti ha na'--
ti ha na'saonao ham si nanå-hu "and" tatå-hu
nisita na un sendedicated
ni ayu na klåsen
cho'cho' nai nisita na un
un gaige gi kurason-mu na para un cho'gue (a)yu kada diha sa'
ma angóngokko hao
"and also" nisita na un hongge
hågu un hongge, nai?
pus hami nai ni i ni i famagu'on nanå-hu "and" tatå-hu
sais
sais
pus nu hami ti ti ha ti ha ti ha fuetsa ham si nanå-hu "an" tatå-hu pa bain tatityi siha
"yeah"
ti um
ha li'e' na ti man--
ti mangos-- ah
ti manggosentersao ham
ha li'e ha' ha li'e' ha'
"no"
no tåya' na
tåya' na ha faisen ham
ti ti
goñiha na
bai faninskuela
sa' nu
ah i bisita nai
estotbo gi halom guma'
todu tiempo guaha guaha taotao gi gima'
tåya' iyo-mu "privacy" nu tåya' tiempo-mu pun fanestudia
sa' nu un nánangga na pa u fanhånao pa u fanhånao pa guma'-ñiha
pes ayu na un fanena
pes ayu na un fanestudia pues ti--
ha' li'e' ha' si nanå-hu an tatå-hu na ti manenteresao ham nu ayu na klåsen cho'cho'
"yeah"
"it just, it just"
"it just felt, that's their"
"that's their profession, that's their choosing"
ti ha fuetsas ham
åhe' "housewife" ha' si nanå-hu, si tatå-hu nu "gardener for the governor's house"
"he was a gardener there"
lao ah
nu ah ayu ha' che'cho'-ñiha
"y'know, just ah, farming?"
si tatå-hu "farming" ha' nai
si nanå-hu
"housewife and ahm care-- caregiver"
Ma'ina, tak-- Ma'ina iyon-måmi "village"
i båndan tatå-hu ayu na lugåt
låo, "in fact"
nu, ah
i båndan nanå-hu mås na man-- na man-- ah
"that I grew up with"
"my cousins from my mother's side"
pus nu ahm
Ma'ina
Ma'ina
si tatå-hu "originally" taotao Aniguak
si nanå-hu si nanå-hu "yeah" si nanå-hu "originally" taotao Hulåle'
pus si tatå-hu nai manggái tano' gi hulo' gi Nimitz Hill
manmanå'i tåno' ni i
ni iyon-ñiha nu "forefathers" yan nu ah manlåncho gi hulo'
ayu na manhånao hulo' Ma'ina pa u fanlåncho
lao todu tiempo manhåhanao pa i tasi man--
mameska lokkue' lao
"they were originally from Hagåtña and Anigua'"
ha'a
pus nu ahm
dikike' na "village" i Ma'ina
ya nu ah
pus i båndan nanå-hu na, na mås hu tungo' parentes-hu
i bånda tatå-hu
hu tungo' ha' palu lao ti gos meggai
i tatan i familian Teresa tiningo'-hu na Terlaje
taotao Yo'ña siha
"From the time I was born, in fact I had to learn, I had to learn English"
Gi eskuela. "I had to learn English."
Gi umm Hagåtña
Åhe' dai, hu "li--" ya-hu.
ya nu hu kókonne' si tatå-hu anggen guaha "homework" hu kókonne' si (ta)tå-hu på'go yan matå'chong ham ya hu fa'nå'--
ya hu fa'nå'gue gue' English si tatå-hu
ha'a
ha'a pus nu "I-- I-- no I-- it--" ti hu na'mappot nu tumungo' English
tumungo' "you know"
"I guess" nu ah "I was very ah"
lao hunggan, fino' CHamoru ha'
"my original tongue"
"nineteen forty-seven"
ha'a
guåhu, guåhu mås åmko' ni' mulåla'
"the very first born was a female" lao måtai
"so then I had two brothers before me" pes guåhu, pes palå'an, pes låhi, pes palå'an
"six survivors"
ha'a
"yeah"
oh si nanå-hu familian CHå
"and" fami--
Da-- kalan i gimen fami-- "and" familian Lachi
A'a familian Lachi
"and" familian CHå
si tatå-hu, dai, si tatå-hu sa' ni-- ni-- ni-- "you know I never did"
"was clear" håfa nu yo-ña nu
"family name" si tatå-hu lao fana'an familian Enna'
lao si nanå-hu familian CHå
Lizama-Måfnas si nanå-hu
ya i Lizåm-
i Lizama
familian Lachi fana'an ayu
i Måfnas, familian CHå
ha'a
Ha'a, meggai parentes-hu nu na CHå
Familian CHå giya Barigåda
Ha'a i Måfnas nai, i Måfnas bula bula bula nu Barigåda Måfnas
I Lizåma manspreadout todu
"yeah"
Ayu ayu ayu tiningo'-hu, lao si tatå-hu, dai, ti hu tungo' håyi nu
familian na'an-ñiha
Okay håyi siha manmalålangu?
nu meggai biåhi na famagu'on
meggai biåhi sa' ma- "my mother was known"
"to be, ahm, herbal"
pus nu ah i famagu'on manmåfatto ni ayi i colic
pus si nanå-hu nai anggen anggen gos malangu i patgon
mamaisen på'go, "esta un konne' pa i mediku"?
Esta un chagi med-- ah cha-- nu "you know" guaha na biåhi na ah
"just to get a background" nai
ha faisen "kao esta månao pa i mediku ya ti inayuda i patgon"?
pus ayu na "she'll get into her business"
pus nu ahm
"she would make"
"herbal" pes ha nåna'yi nu ah
"something to, ahm..."
"to... to make the child cough," noh?
pes nu ah uyu i
i kannai-ña hålom para u
"scrape out whatever's choking that child"
ya ha na'muta'
pus meggai meggai famagu'on manmåfatto sa' "that was her reputation" na
"herbal medicine" bidåda-ña
si tatå-hu-- yan manlalasa
bula ya-ña manmalasa guaha na biåhi na dos oras si nanå-hu ni manlalasa
ayu siha i man-- i malago' manmalasa put "tension"
put ahm guaha ayi manaksidente ya man- "you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck"
pus
fo-- ayi siha manaksidente ayu siha i... i...
manmalago' an manlasa "for to relieve their tension and ah"
guaha ayu måfatto ha, dai, para u malasa ayi bihu guaha na biåhi na
pudi pa u malasa ha'
pes nu
pes nu lao lao meggaiña meggaiña "herbal" si-- na na famagu'on nu manmåfatto gi gima'-måmi, si tatå-hu ayu siha i guaha na biåhi na pokpok nai
guaha na biåhi na pokpok na ti malago' humånao "or or whatever"
ya nu guaha na biåhi si tatå-hu na ha chule' ha' i te'la'-ña ya ha palai'i
"to see what happens"
"funny," dai, este as tatå-hu
lao si tatå-hu manlolommok... "whatever" lom-- "whatever" nu "herbal" ha lolommok ya guaha na biåhi na palalai
"and usually it's um"
"you know just" denegridu "or something" nai "some unknown"
"unknown illness that crops up on the skin"
pus ha palalai på'go ni i amot
pes an
"you know"
"that- that's it"
"to just see if it works"
Ti manggågao si nanå-hu kopble
ti manggågao lao ginen i minagof i
"Yeah" minagof-- ni minagof-ñiha ha' manåna'i kopble
Tåya' na ha renunsia gue' [chumåchalek]
no
no ti ma chulele'i nengkanno'
ayu ha' i ayu ah nu ah
ayu ha' anggen ma nå'i kopble
lao ti meggai nai ti dångkolo "whatevers whatever they"
"whatever they can give her"
"yeah"
"just out of the..."
"you know"
"kindness of their heart" ma nå'i
ti hu tungo', dai, ennao
ah ah håfa i kuestion?
para si påle'?
Ti hu-- oh ti hu--
"that was their lifestyle"
si nanå-hu nai fina'nå'gue gi as nanå-ña an tatå-ña
"so she kinda grew up with her own family being suruhanus"
si tatå-hu "was just his own thing"
lao ahm "that that's"
"they- they just practiced it"
"since they were younger"
"from their own household"
Hunggan hu hongge
hunggan hu hongge na manli'e'-hu meggai ni manma'ayuda
meggai manma'ayuda
hu hongge lao ti presisu ha' hu' nai
ti- ti ti ayu nu
pa bai f-- pa bai falåggue'
Oh
Mana- i- i- man- manásangani ha' i taotao
manásangani ha'
anggen håyi nu nu malångu patgon-ña
guaha ha na biåhi na bula, guaha na biåhi na "same family"
nu "two or three times" manmåfatto
"so it's a word of mouth among the locals"
"li- like I said" nai si nanå-hu ma tungo' mås put i amot-ña
si tatå-hu ma tungo' mås put i... i bidåda-ña ni i... kalan nu...
guiya ha' la'mon ni tiningo'-ña
"so word of mouth"
Para guåhu nai annai annai annai
ahm
"I don't wanna be negative"
lao estotbao
ayi ha estotba yu'
ahm para u guaha siha taotao gi guma'-måmi, sa' guaha na biåhi na ti manmåmakta ham esta guaha manmåfatto taotao
ya guaha na biåhi na "late at night" na manåhanao
"so ah freedom around my house" guaha na biåhi na kalan "restricted" sa' guaha bisita
"so it never- it never"
"it never" ahm ti- ti ilek- "it never said, 'oh, I want to do that'"
ti- ti "joy" ti "jump for joy" -hu nai
"for that so- because I did consider it kind of like an invasion of privacy for one"
"and um it's not that I didn't believe it because it-- I s-- I did see the results very very, very very positive results"
ya bula todu tiempo man-- man-- manma'agradesi si nanå-hu bidåda-ña
lao nu ahm
mås nai matulaika-- matulaika i tiempo guihi, no?
"I'm-- I mean I wasn't a homebound, I wasn't destined to be a homebound"
"I was out"
"learning and y'know going beyond that"
"frame of household" nai
pus um ti-- ti-- ti prisisu ti-- ti-- ti humålom gi kurason-hu
"and like I said"
nisita na un hongge ya nisita na un "dedicate" hao gi ayu na klåsen cho'cho'
Dångkolo na "dedication", "yeah"
"yeah" parehu ha' sinenten-ñiha
"we were up, y'know, we were-- we were"
"going outside of the framework of that"
"that"
ahm
"profession"
"I put water, I put eye-droplets in my eye and I'm now I'm tearing"
"No, I'll just use this little dry..."
"end"
"It..."
umm
"when I put eye-droplets in for the retinas"
"then it creates"
"tears"
"it takes away the dryness"
"so... okay, but I will have a drink"
klåru para hågu?
un komprende
un komprende nu
"Am I echoing?"
Månu i i suruhånu "and" suruhåna?
"No", dai
Åhe'
Åhe'
Nu mediku ha' nai
Guaha unu nu na palå'an si Rosalia Mateas fana'an
Ma na'saonao ayu na palå'an gi FA-- ah
FESPAC? PACFES?
"She was the one" na kana'
"She was the one that wanted to learn from my mother"
"And she'll always give my mother credit"
pus nu guiya nu na palå'an nu manå'amte fana'an na tiempo "and I think" nu manmanå'na'gue' nu åmot no?
"so" ayu na ayu ha' na palå'an ni tiningo'-hu ni' ha "follow" si nanå-hu ya- ya
"like I said" todu i tiempo ha nåna'i "credit" si nanå-hu na fina'nå'gue nai
sa' bula famagu'on-ña i palå'an
ya nu [chumåchalek]
fihu manmalångu "when they were kids" no? "So she really believed in it" ya
"She wanted to be a suruhåna and so I-- she became a suruhåna. So I know of her, as one"
"that learned from my mother"
Si-- mm si Rosalia? Ha'a.
Fejeran
"And she married a Mateo"
Fejeran
"I think" taotao su- taotao Tamuneng ha'
Kalan sikretu? Na na tiningo'-ñiha?
"in their trade?"
"As-- as" suruhånu "and" suruhåna?
Tåya'. "No, they-"
Tåya' sikretu anggen tåya' nu
"no, no"
Tåya' "voodoo magic"
Tåya', "no".
Si tatå-hu nai guaha na biåhi na nu nu ah
ha lemlem ham ni ayi i anggen manåmte nai guaha na biåhi na
guaha na biåhi na nu ti--
kalan "unbelievable" håfa bidå-ña "or whatever, you know"
"so"
"it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny" lao
guaha na biåhi na
"surprising" håfa nu yo-ña "result"
"but that's about it, just--"
"but no secrets"
I- because
Bula esta manåmko' ya manmåtai
ya
nu
nu ti meggai nu man--
manmalago'
"it could be"
"it could be phasing out"
"and um"
umm
sa' i pumalon, sa' bula suruhåna gi tiempon nanå-hu
lámeggai ha' siha
Yigo yan fa'na'an Barigåda "and"
lao fa'na'an, dai, todu manmåtai ayu siha na manåmko'
"including my own parents, of course"
manhånao esta manmåtai
ya ti hu hungok, dai, tåya' hiningóngok-hu nu
nu mumalago'
Ni ginen i manhoben "yeah"
"yeah"
Si Rosalia buente mås tumungo' ennao na kuestion.
"well"
"they--"
"they want to--"
"they they they want to try their very very best"
anggen, anggen ti fina'maolek i patgon gi fine'nana biåhi
ilek-ña nanå-hu, 'konne' ta'lo mågi agupa', estaki ha li'e na séntaya' ha'
para u cho'gue
"so it's, uh, determination"
na pa u mana'homlo' i patgon
"that's, that's the connection there" ni i i "modern" na mediku yan nu ahm
tåya' as nanå-hu na ha rinunsia gue'
"they never turn anybody away"
"so that's, that's another thing they--"
Ti siña nu ti-- ti todu tiempo "she'll just give it a try"
ya ahm
"so its ah its dedication" ni i
pa u na'homlo' i taotao
na mamperehu
Ti hu--, ti hu tungo' lao nu anggen ilek-ta nai anggen nu
anggen atdedet patgon
umålok si nanå-hu nai guaha na biåhi ha faisen, 'esta un konne' pa i mediku? ya nu tåya' nu, ti inayuda?'
lek-ña, 'unggan esta dai saina-hu hu chagi, hu chagi esta ya ti inayuda.' Pues lek-ña, 'okay maila' ya ta chagi'
"so, so" guaha na biåhi na ha konne' ha' nai tåya' kuestion
lao guaha na biåhi na ha faisen, "Kao esta nu un konne' pa i mediku?"
"it depends"
"I- I don't really know, you know, their", håfa "their"
"main ah main steps" lao
"its all kinds" ti-
"Oh, I'm sure maybe yeah, I'm sure, maybe there is an example of that"
"I mean it's not always a guarantee" nai?
"No"
U-- unggan ni ayi para ahm
para bai in chuli'i gue' ni i amot
"mostly my brothers did that for her"
sa' manhåhanao huyong gi halom tåno' "or"
para i puntan tåsi, para u ma chule' este siha na klåsen åmot
"and... and really that's about it"
anggen-- yan guaha na biåhi na anggen ha nisita na pa u ma lommok guaha na biåhi na ha faisen ham guaha na biåhi na ha faisen ham para bai en lommok
lao pinat siha ha' mås chumocho'gue ennao
si tatå-hu guiya ha' umu'uyi i amot-ña
ha lólommok i amot-ña
si nanå-hu
nu anggen ha nisita nu åmot nu mámaisen para u
guaha na biåhi na ha faisen i "patient"
i familian i "patient" pau
hånao ya ma chule' åmot siha
ya "or" guaha na biåhi na ha faisen ayi i che'lu-hu lao pinat i familia ha fáfaisen, "hånao, låhi-hu, ya un chule' ayi i amot gi i taigi "and" taigi
anggen ha tungo' i taotao
anggen ti ha tungo ah "then" ah unu na che'lu
"No, nothing special"
Håfa na klåsen "patient"?
"not really, no"
"i-- its just kind of a routine"
"not really"
"no"
ayu ha' i sénmalangu ni' guaha na biåhi i patgon chatta humåhagong iyo-ña "colic"
ayu mås makkat ma--
sa' nisita na para u-- u guesgues huyong ni kalulot-ña nai
makkat ayu ya ha na'muta' i patgon ha na'muta'
"take it out"
"I don't know"
"no I don't-- I don't understand"
mmm
"I don't know if I can give an opinion on that"
ti ti
ti
"well"
ti hu spíspiha palåbra, "I mean I don't know"
Kao gua-- kao guaha håfa?
kao guaha kuentos
hu hungok put put nu suruhåna?
oh
kao guaha kuentos-ñiha?
Ni ti hu húhungok på'go?
"No"
"I don't have a-- I don't have a-- I can't answer that question 'cause I'm not in contact with suruhåna"
Tåya' esta fa'na'an manlálasa na bånda
"Guam, I--" ti
ti-- ti meggai esta fa'na'an suruhåna nai ayi i manlálasa
"that I know of, yeah"
"y-- for my mother, for my mother only"
i "tension" siha
anggen anggen ke'yao hao anggen nu
"if you have a sprain"
"um, she'll--"
"she'll ma-- massage" i i i i "muscle around it"
"and ah"
"or" i "tension" nai bula ayi i mantension guini mågi
"she'll... just regular massaging like any other masseur"
"she'll..."
"massage like that"
"and so"
ayu siha "masseur" ni manmachócho'cho' på'go
"I think they do the same thing" nai ayi i ha lasa hao på'go ni
iyo-mu "tension" iyo-mu "muscle"
ahm
hunggan nai guaha na biåhi na ma sångan noh na guaha kalan guaha na kalan guaha iyo-ña nai "powers" noh?
guaha na biåhi na kalan ma sångan ayu
"and" ah si tatå-hu nai
guaha na biåhi na kalan masångan, "kalan guaha dai ayu na bihu nu iyo-ña nu spiritu" nai
"and y'know it's, it's a, it's"
"kind of like"
"um"
"kind of like" hunggan kalan guaha yon-ñiha nai nu
"healing power"
Kalan guaha iyo-ña "healing power"
"so"
siña un ågang ayu spiritu anggen anggen malangu'on "freely"
lao nu ahm
kalan guaha nai iyon-ñiha "powers" nai siña manmanåmte ya siña ma na'homlo', kalan dångkolo yu na
"you know"
nis-- "yeah"
"oh no, ta--, no they don't have, they don't have a--"
Tåya' ni ayi i ma konsusult na, nu tåya' ni ayu
tåya' ni ayu, ayi kalan iyon-ñiha ha' nu
"aura"
"you know" ni ayi i
iyon-ñiha ha' nai ni
kalan ma gai spiritu
"no"
tåya' ni ennao tåya' n--
"there's no magic"
[chumåchalek]
"there's no voodoo"
"it's just really just a willingness to do a-- to t-- to have, y'know, the power to heal"
ni ni' iyo-ña "powers"?
ni iyon-ña "powers" ni pa u fanmanhomlo'
"no"
"it's kinda like a job everyday"
"yeah"
ayi "you know", ma-- ma á'atan i taotao ma li'e' håfa ha nisisita
pes ma
cho'gue håfa ma chócho'gue "yeah" lao
"year round, year round" na manmanå'amte
muskuela hu' Hagåtña
"Agana Elementary School"
"and then I transferred to Adelup"
"Adelup used to be an elementary school"
"where the..."
"the governor's office is right now"
"that used to be an elementary school"
"so I went to elementary school"
guihi
pes månao hu' pa GW giya Mongmong, "the old GW with the quonset hut"
"I went to that school"
"then I finally graduated at JFK"
"the first year that JFK was called JFK"
"'cause before that"
"Tumon High School" ayu eståba
pus mugraduate hu' gi JFK
pes muskuela hu' gi "College"
ha'a
"I--" månao hu' pa Amerika, månao hu' para "California"
"and I was taking classes here and there"
pes annai måtto hu' tatte' "I ki-- I finally"
"finished my, um..."
"here at UOG"
Macho'cho' hu' "for Federal Government"
"I was a managerial..."
"contracting officer, I was an--"
"uh, manager"
"I was a contracting officer so I know a little about..."
"paralegal stuff"
åhe' ti ha faisen hu' ayi nobio-hu
ti malago'
Åhe', dai, "yeah"
ti malago' u-- uf-- guåhu hu faisen gue' ilek-hu
'Kao malago' ya ta ásagua'?', ilek-ña, "no"
[chumåchalek]
"so that's it"
Ai kana' bumisinu nai sa' unu taotao Aniguak otro taotao Hulåle'
"Guess what!"
"Guess what!"
Si tatå-hu månao guatu ya malasa gi as nanå-hu
ah månao guatu ya po malasa
si tatå-hu si tatå-hu månao guatu ya
po malasa gi as nanå-hu
pues linasa gi as nanå-hu
"and from there on, it was love!"
"isn't that funny?"
"oh boy, I think they were..."
"in their late..."
"in-- in their-- in their very early twenties maybe? I don't know"
"or, y'know, in their late teens, maybe?"
lao kana' bumisinu nai i dos
pus nu
hagas ha ripåra na ei sa' manlálasa ayu na palå'an yan nu "you know" kalan ya-ña nai
pus ha fa'malångu gue' ya månao ya malasa
månao ya malasa
pus "y'know, then they"
"then he proposed to her or whatever and"
umásagua i dos
si nanå-hu "is" ah
"nineteen...fifteen and" si tatå-hu "nineteen-oh-eight"
"I believe"
"or," nu, "nineteen twenty-one? No-"
Ai dai, ti hu tungo'. Maleffa hu'
"Nineteen twenty-one" fana'an si nanå-hu
"and my father, I can't remember, honestly it's terrible, I can't remember now what year"
"it's on their graves, but..." [chumåchalek] eh
"no"
"No"? Ah oh-- hamyo?
guaha mås nu
ya malago' un tungo'
ahm
"we"
"I feel, ooh, this is sort of um-- it's a story"
"but, um"
"when--"
"yeah" ha'a nu ahm ...an i an i
guaha na biåhi na guaha manmåtto ya ti- guah na biåhi na mambisita
"or that we think" mambisita lao ti mambisita
un biåhi nu ahm måtto ayi che'lu para u boka talo'åni nai
ya nu ha hungok i kareta nai
kumahúhulo' ilek-ña, 'lani'
"he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat" yan guah bisita "when" annai
pus ha nangga nai ha nangga "y'know" tåya' bisita måtto
lao ha hungok ha' ha hungok ha' i kareta na måtto
ha hungok ha' "and and to to us that was a sign" oh guah måtto bisita "so that kind of a memory"
"also, um"
ah
i i
ayu na klåsen klåsen
"and and we think" na na guah siha ayi i manmåtai yan manmåtto manmambisita taigui na klåsi "but"
"in their particular job"
nu ti ti
ti meggai nu ahm
ti megga-- tåya' nu ah
tåya' "particular" ahm
"favorite story or anything like that"
lao lao lao i- "it"
"only that I-- it... it's um"
"it's kind of, um"
"after thing" nai ni iyi
kalan nu mm in-- kalan guah bisita manmåfatto ha' ya ti ya ti pa u fanma'åmte
"it it just"
"that's what we recollect sometimes"
hami ni famagu'on
na
"okay, that's one experience, and then, you know, uh"
guah ta'lo mås lao lao "I-"
"I, I can't remember it all right now"
"that's the one thing that I remember"
"very physical"
na guah måtto kareta
tåya'
"very physical"
tåya'
lao
"other than that"
bula siha manmåfatto ni ni
ai guah na biåhi na ti manmakmåta ham
Ha'a
"yeah"
lao lao manluhan nai i i-- "y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible" guatu gi i suruhåna sa'
man-- man"up all night" man-- man-- man-- manluhan ni famagu'on-ñiha
"so they come very early sometime"
"the..."
"yeah"
"so"
"but, um"
"that-- that's it, really"
"y'know that that kinda stands out"
"this is the... after-- afterlife or something"
"for uh"
"a little" memorias
"or"
"yeah"
"that's kinda what you were looking for?"
monhåyan
monhåyan esta?
Okay, dai, ai, pus nu
ahm
ah "hopefully" na man-- inayuda ni esudi- estudiå-mu
Maolek
kay
tutuhon
Manlisto
hao--
listo
hao
Okay
ah
okay
Dispensa
kay
bai
bai
entrodusen
maisa
ha'
yu'
ta'lo
Guåhu
si
Fu'una
Sanz
ma'estran
CHamoru
yu'
giya
PC Lujan
ah
bente
siette
åños
yu'
ya
taotao
Yo'ña
yu'
Familian
Listo
si
nanå-hu
yan
familian
Talo'
i
si
tatå-hu
ginen
Sinahånña
okay
ah
yan
hågu
siñora
kao
siña
un entrodusen
maisa
hao
Kao
kao
guaha
mañe'lu-mu
Oh
lao
lao
dos
ha'
dos
ha'
hamyo
O
mås
ki
hågu
Kuånto
put
todu
na
famagu'on
sais
ti
manentresao
hamyo
lao
lao
kao
kao
ma faisen
hamyo
kao
malago'
tungo'
put
este
hunggan
hunggan
oh
pues
kao
guaha
otro
cho'cho'-ñiha
pat
ennao
ha'
bidan-ñiñiha
"ohh, okay"
yan
mañåsaga
hamyo
giya
Ma'ina
ennao
i
båndan
nanå-mu
pat
si
tatå-mu
taotao
månu
si
nanå-mu
oh
oh
pues
hihot
hihot
ha'
mhmm
okay
ah
pues
kao
hagas
hao
ha'
fumino'
CHamoru
gi
eskuela
mhmm
Kao
makkat
ya
hågu
un fa'nå'gue
si
tatå-hu
Taiguihi
eskuela
lokkue'
Ngai'an
ah
anggen
ti
lalålo'
Ngai'an
na
mafañågu
hao
"nineteen forty-seven"
Kao
hågu
i
i
mås
åmko'
oh
"okay"
ahh
"kay"
hu taitai
i
kuestion
guini
kao
un tungo'
håfa
i
nå'an
familiå-mu
pat
håfa
mås
matungo'-ñiha
chå
kalan
i
gimen
ha!
Familian
Lachi
Enna'
Familian
CHå
yan
familian
Lache
Wow
ni
ngai'an
na
u
hungok
familian
CHå
yan
familian
Lachi
hunggan
ahh
Okay
esta
hu faisen
este
okay
ah
okay
Tåtte
para
i
suruhåna
håyi
humåhanao
para
i
suruhåna
håfa
na
klåsen
taotao
Håfa
siha
na
rasón
ni
mambisísita
mmhm
famagu'on
Oh
fine'nana
wow
uhm
Pues
taimanu
ni
ma'apåpasi
siha
Pues
håfa
na
klåsi
Håfa--
Kalan-
Kao
ma nåna'i
nengkanno'
pat
Siña
ma apåsi
mmhm
Okay
ah
pues
ngai'an
na
manhånao
para
si
påle'
ya
ngai'an
na
ma
hånao
para
i
suruhåna
Pues
si
påle'
Hunggan
kay
ah
taimanu
na
un
tungo'
put
i
åmot
put--
pat
i
kinalamten
suruhåna
Kao
kao
un hongge
ni
i
åmot-ñiha
Hunggan
mmhm
ah
taimanu
na
ma tungo'
este
na
kinalamten
put
suruhåna
Bula
manmalångu
ah
Pues
sa'
håfa
mohon
na
na
ti
manmalago'
hågu
pat
i
mañe'lu-mu
para
u
saonao
i
suruhåna
Ya-
Hunggan
hunggan
hunggan
parehu
i
mañe'lu-mu
lokkue'
i
sinenten-ñiha
Hunggan
ahm
"kay"
nangga
"okay"
kao
kao
guaha
"kay"
listo
sinora
hunggan
ah
Kao
guaha
tiningo'
pat
fina'nå'gue
na
malago'
na
un tungo'
på'go
sa'
guaha
minaolek-ña
Kao
guaha
na
malago'
un tungo'
på'go
tåya'
"kay"
pues
i
kao
hågu
un bisista
suruhåna
anggen
malångu
hao
pat
i
åhe'
Kao
un tungo'
otro
na
suruhåna
yan
suruhånu
mmhm
hunggan
Taotao
Guåhan
gue'
ah
okay
kao
guaha
ah
Nangga
Håfa
na
båndan
yo'åmte
ni'
ti
ma såsangan
gi
me'nan-miyu
Kalan
sikretu
Kao-
mmhm
Hunggan
ilek-ña
guini
"what parts were kept secret from"
Hunggan
kao
Hunggan
Tåya'
tiningo'-mu-"s"
sa'
ti
ma sangåni
hao
no
"Kay"
ah
på'go
na
tiempo
håfa
mohon
påtten
yo'åmte
siha
Gi
gi
kuminidåt
gi
familia
yan
taiguennao
siha
Kao
kao
kao
mohon
siña
u
lå'la'
gi
mamaila'
na
tiempo
Kao
siempre
låla'la'
ha'
i
suruhå-
"you know"
i
i
kinalamten
i
suruhåna
Ginen
i
i
manhoben
ah
Kao
guaha
i
parehu-ña
i
suruhåna
yan
i
i
mediku
Parehu
Okay
ngai--
okay
pues
i
manmalångu
na
taotao
ngai'an
para
u falak
i
mediku
ya
ngai'an
para
u falak
i
suruhåna
Kao
un tung--
Pues
i
i
manmalångu
siha
kao
kao
manmalak
i
mediku
fine'nana
pues
mambisita
i
suruhånu
Kao
kao
guaha
ahm
ma
susedi
na
ti
siña
ma homlo'
i
taotao
ya
pues
pa
u sångan
"okay"
sigi
para
i
mediku
sa'
ti
siña
hu ayuda
hao
Kao
guaha
"Okay"
ah
pues
yanggen
påtgon
hao
kao
kao
un ayúyuda
si
nanå-hu
pat
si
tatå-mu
Åhe'
mm-hm
Hågu
un ayúyuda
ah
ah
kao
un tungo'
håfa
bidan-ñíñiha
åntes
måtto
i
taotao
åntes di
u måtto
i
taotao
Tåya'
tåya'
klåsen
para
u ma pripåra
åhe'
ah
kay
Ilek-ña
guini
kao
manlálasa
hao
lao
ilek-mu
åhe'
noh
Kay
kao
un tungo'
håyi
mås
makkat
para
u ma åmte
Håfa
na
klåsen
chetnot
chetnot
pat
taotao
"yeah"
Kao
un
un tungo'
håfa
na
klåsen
chetnot
m--
uh
makkat
para
u åmte
ah
Håfa
hinasso-mu
nu
i
amot
yan
i
yo'åmte
ginen
sanlågu
Uh
"kay"
gi
fino'
English
"what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?"
"kay"
maolek ha'
ah
kao
guaha
finiho'
siha
ni
ti
un húhungok
på'go
kalan
fi--
fino'
suruhåna
fino'
suruhånu
na
klåsen
palåbra
finiho'
siha
mmhm
klås--
klåsin
kuentos
mmhm
Ni
ti
un húhungok
på'go
mmhm
Kao
un tungo'
ah
klåsen
kuentos
para
i
manlálasa
ha'
na
bånda
mmhm
Kao
kao
parehu
todu
klåsen
lasa
"okay, let me--"
Kao
guaha
nå'an
ånti
ni
un tungo'
ginen
mañaina-mu
ånti
kalan
aniti
espiritu
kalan
taiguennao
na
guaha
ga'chong
Hunggan
Kao
kao
kao
guaha na
ilek-ñiha
na
ma kuentútusi
i
ånte
pat
i
taotaomo'na
kao
kao
ilek-ña
siña
manli'e'
"Kay"
k-
kao
guaha
uh
tiempo
pat
såkkan
ni
ma chocho'gue
uh
kalan
kao
guaha
tiempo
gi
såkkan
ni
ni'
ma
pa
ma cho'gue
espesiåt
na
kinalamten
ah
kay
fa'na'an
ennao
todu
i
kuestión
hunggan
uh
"okay"
uh
este
ha'
put
hågu
på'go
uh
pat
sa'
malago'
bai
bai
faisen
hao
ha'
pues
uh
mafañågu
hao
"nineteen forty-seven"
pues
amånu
muskuela
hao
hunggan
guini
GCC
pat
Unibetsidat
"ohh"
Pues
amånu
na
macho'cho'
hao
Håfa
na
klåsen
cho'cho'
"ohh"
ya
umasågua
Kao
guaha
kao
guaha
famagu'on-mu
Pues
pues
si
nanå-mu
yan
si
tatå-mu
kao
un tungo'
taimanu
umásodda'
siha
"ohh"
mmhm
pues
ennao
ha'
sa'
Ha
lasa
si
nanå-mu
Guiya
si
nanå-mu
"ohh!"
hunggan
Kao
un tungo'
kuåntos
åños
siha
Håfa
na
såkkan
i
mafañågu
si
nanå-mu
yan
si
tatå-mu
"wow"
ahh
dispensa
Kao
guaha
kuestión-miyu
ta'lo
ta'lo
"yeah"
lao
ha hungok
i
kareta
maseha håfa
na
ora
manmåfatto
pat
"ohh"
manmonhåyan
hunggan
hunggan
mm-mm
mm-mm
Guåhu
si
Bernadita
Terlaje
lao
ya-hu
na
bai
ma'ågang
Benit
ya
taotao
Ma'ina
yu'
mafañågu
hu'
"and"
mapoksai
hu'
Ma'ina
pes
taotao
Tamuneng
hu'
på'go
ya
nu
ahm
si
nanå-hu
Rihina
si
tatå-hu
Jesus
Rehina
Måfnas
Terlaje
Jesus
Sålas
Terlaje
"both of them"
todu i dos
nu
suruhånu
"and"
suruhåna
si
nanå-hu
nu
manå'amte
nu
ayi
åmot
åmot
pa
i
famagu'on
yan
nu
manlálasa'
anggen
se'yon
hao
"or"
håfa
chetnot-mu
manlálasa
lao
pinat
famagu'on
ha å'amte
si
tatå-hu
"topical"
manpalalálai'i
åmot
anggen
guaha
chetnot
guiya
ayu
bidåda-ña
pus nu
ayu
ayu
ha'
ayu
mås
nu
bidan-ñiñiha
i
i
pa
u fanåmte
famagu'on
si
nanå-hu
"primarily"
si
nanå-hu
mås
nu
ahm
mås
nu
ah
manå'amte
ki
si
tatå-hu
håssan
si
tatå-hu
na
manåmte
solo
yi
chetnot
si
nanå-hu
nu
ahm
bula
manmalálasa
bula
manmalálasa
gi
an
aksidente
hao
manlálasa
anggen
nu
se'yon
hao
yi
kalan
håfa
nu
na
minahetok
ha ch--
ha lálasa
hao
para
u na'suha
iyo-mu
nu
"tension"
an
ah
anggen
nu
anggen
ah
anggen
un "sprain"
hao
nai
anggen
nu
appleng
i
addeng-mu
ah
ni
lálasa
hao
på'go
ni
ayu
para
u
para
u
ah
"primarily"
nu
i
"muscle"
ah
ha na'--
ha na'súsuha
i
"tension"
gi
"muscle"
nai
pus
ayu
pus
i
nu
kana'
kada
diha
guaha
taotao
giya
håmi
man-
manmåfatto
ni
pa
u fanma'åmte
an
famagu'on
kana'
kana'
eyi
i
mås
manmalångu
nu
ah
eyi
flema
ni
ti
siña
esta
nu
nina'huyong
ni
i
amot
i
mediku
ha nåna'yi
åmot
para
u
para
u na'huyong
i
flema
gi
i
patgon
pus
bula
na'fanhomlo'
si
nanå-hu
bula
na'fanhomlo'
"so"
Nu
unu
na
che'lu-hu
lao
esta
måtai
mañoñotne
åmot
lao
ah
yan
mañoñotne
åmot
nanå-hu
"and"
tatå-hu
nai
lao
ma chulíli'i
guatu
ni
hagon
puru
siha
hågon
nu
åmot
na
hågon
ha sósotne
pus
unu
na
che'lu-hu
nu
mañó--
mañósotne
eståba
nai
lao
ha
ti
ah
ti
ha chule'
ah
månu
ha'
na
guaha
malago'
åmot
ya
må ha'--
må--
månu
ha'
na
månao
mañule'
åmot
ayu
na
mañóñotne
lao
ti
kada
diha
ha chocho'gue
ayu
lao
esta
taigue
ayu
na
che'lu
lao
guiya
ha'
guiya
ha'
guiya
ha'
kåsi
k--
guiya
kåsi
nu
tumattiyi
si
nanå-hu
Ham
ha--
mås
åhe'
ti
hami
ni
i
pumalu
ti
hami
en tattiyi
ti
ha na'--
ti
ha na'--
ti
ha na'saonao
ham
si
nanå-hu
"and"
tatå-hu
nisita
na
un sendedicated
ni
ayu
na
klåsen
cho'cho'
nai
nisita
na
un
un
gaige
gi
kurason-mu
na
para
un cho'gue
(a)yu
kada
diha
sa'
ma angóngokku
hao
"and also"
nisita
na
un hongge
hågu
un hongge
nai
pus
hami
nai
ni
i
ni
i
famagu'on
nanå-hu
"and"
tatå-hu
sais
sais
pus
nu
hami
ti
ti
ha
ti
ha
ti
ha fuetsa
ham
si
nanå-hu
"an"
tatå-hu
pa
bain
tatityi
siha
"yeah"
ti
um
ha li'e'
na
ti
man--
ti
mangos--
ah
ti
manggosentersao
ham
ha li'e
ha'
ha li'e'
ha'
"no"
no
tåya'
na
tåya'
na
ha faisen
ham
ti
ti
goñiha
na
bai
faninskuela
sa'
nu
ah
i
bisita
nai
estotbo
gi
halom
guma'
todu
tiempo
guaha
guaha
taotao
gi
gima'
tåya'
iyo-mu
"privacy"
nu
tåya'
tiempo-mu
pun
fanestudia
sa'
nu
un nánangga
na
pa
u fanhånao
pa
u fanhånao
pa
guma'-ñiha
pes
ayu
na
un fanena
pes
ayu
na
un fanestudia
pues
ti--
ha'
li'e'
ha'
si
nanå-hu
an
tatå-hu
na
ti
manenteresao
ham
nu
ayu
na
klåsen
cho'cho'
"yeah"
"it just, it just"
"it just felt, that's their"
"that's their profession, that's their choosing"
ti
ha fuetsas
ham
åhe'
"housewife"
ha'
si
nanå-hu
si
tatå-hu
nu
"gardener for the governor's house"
"he was a gardener there"
lao
ah
nu
ah
ayu
ha'
che'cho'-ñiha
"y'know, just ah, farming?"
si
tatå-hu
"farming"
ha'
nai
si
nanå-hu
"housewife and ahm care-- caregiver"
Ma'ina
ták--
Ma'ina
iyon-måmi
"village"
i
båndan
tatå-hu
ayu
na
lugåt
låo
"in fact"
nu
ah
i
båndan
nanå-hu
mås
na
man
na
man
ah
"that I grew up with"
"my cousins from my mother's side"
pus nu
ahm
Ma'ina
Ma'ina
si
tatå-hu
"originally"
taotao
Aniguak
si
nanå-hu
si
nanå-hu
"yeah"
si
nanå-hu
"originally"
taotao
Hulåle'
pus
si
tatå-hu
nai
manggái
tano'
gi
hulo'
gi
Nimitz Hill
manmanå'i
tåno'
ni
i
ni
iyon-ñiha
nu
"forefathers"
yan
nu
ah
manlåncho
gi
hulo'
ayu
na
manhånao
hulo'
Ma'ina
pa
u fanlåncho
lao
todu
tiempo
manhåhanao
pa
i
tasi
man--
mameska
lokkue'
lao
"they were originally from Hagåtña and Anigua'"
ha'a
pus nu
ahm
dikike'
na
"village"
i
Ma'ina
ya
nu
ah
pus
i
båndan
nanå-hu
na
na
mås
hu tungo'
parentes-hu
i
bånda
tatå-hu
hu tungo'
ha'
palu
lao
ti
gos
meggai
i
tatan
i
familian
Teresa
tiningo'-hu
na
Terlaje
taotao
Yo'ña
siha
"From the time I was born, in fact I had to learn, I had to learn English"
gi
eskuela
"I had to learn English"
gi
umm
Hagåtña
åhe'
dai
hu "li--"
ya-hu
ya
nu
hu kókonne'
si
tatå-hu
anggen
guaha
"homework"
hu kókonne'
si
(ta)tå-hu
på'go
yan
matå'chong
ham
ya
hu fa'nå'--
ya
hu fa'nå'gue
gue'
English
si
tatå-hu
ha'a
ha'a
pus
nu
"I-- I-- no I-- it--"
ti
hu na'mappot
nu
tumungo'
English
tumungo'
"you know"
"I guess"
nu
ah
"I was very ah"
lao
hunggan
fino'
CHamoru
ha'
"my original tongue"
"nineteen forty-seven"
ha'a
guåhu
guåhu
mås
åmko'
ni'
mulåla'
"the very first born was a female"
lao
måtai
"so then I had two brothers before me"
pes
guåhu
pes
palå'an
pes
låhi
pes
palå'an
"six survivors"
ha'a
"yeah"
oh
si
nanå-hu
familian
CHå
"and"
fami--
Da--
kalan
i
gimen
fami--
"and"
familian
Lachi
A'a
familian
Lachi
"and"
familian
CHå
si
tatå-hu
dai
si
tatå-hu
sa'
ni--
ni--
ni--
"you know I never did"
"was clear"
håfa
nu
yo-ña
nu
"family name"
si
tatå-hu
lao
fana'an
familian
Enna'
lao
si
nanå-hu
familian
CHå
Lizama-Måfnas
si
nanå-hu
ya
i
Lizåm-
i
Lizama
familian
Lachi
fana'an
ayu
i
Måfnas
familian
CHå
ha'a
Ha'a
meggai
parentes-hu
nu
na
CHå
Familian
CHå
giya
Barigåda
Ha'a
i
Måfnas
nai
i
Måfnas
bula
bula
bula
nu
Barigåda
Måfnas
I
Lizåma
manspreadout
todu
"yeah"
Ayu
ayu
ayu
tiningo'-hu
lao
si
tatå-hu
dai
ti
hu tungo'
håyi
nu
familian na'an-ñiha
okay
håyi
siha
manmalålangu
nu
meggai
biåhi
na
famagu'on
meggai
biåhi
sa'
ma-
"my mother was known"
"to be, ahm, herbal"
pus
nu
ah
i
famagu'on
manmåfatto
ni
ayi
i
colic
pus
si
nanå-hu
nai
anggen
anggen
gos
malangu
i
patgon
mamaisen
på'go
esta
un konne'
pa
i
mediku
Esta
un
chagi
med--
ah
cha--
nu
"you know"
guaha na biåhi na
ah
"just to get a background"
nai
ha faisen
kao
esta
månao
pa
i
mediku
ya
ti
inayuda
i
patgon
pus
ayu
na
"she'll get into her business"
pus nu
ahm
"she would make"
"herbal"
pes
ha
nåna'yi
nu
ah
"something to, ahm..."
"to... to make the child cough"
noh
pes nu
ah
uyu
i
i
kannai-ña
hålom
para
u
"scrape out whatever's choking that child"
ya
ha na'muta'
pus
meggai
meggai
famagu'on
manmåfatto
sa'
"that was her reputation"
na
"herbal medicine"
bidåda-ña
si
tatå-hu--
yan
manlalasa
bula
ya-ña
manmalasa
guaha na biåhi na
dos
oras
si
nanå-hu
ni
manlalasa
ayu
siha
i
man--
i
malago'
manmalasa
put
"tension"
put
ahm
guaha
ayi
manaksidente
ya
man-
"you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck"
pus
fo--
ayi
siha
manaksidente
ayu
siha
i
i
manmalago'
an
manlasa
"for to relieve their tension and ah"
guaha
ayu
måfatto
ha'
dai
para
u malasa
ayi
bihu
guaha na biåhi na
pudi
pa
u malasa
ha'
pes
nu
pes
nu
lao
lao
meggaiña
meggaiña
"herbal"
si--
na
na
famagu'on
nu
manmåfatto
gi
gima'-måmi
si
tatå-hu
ayu
siha
i
guaha na biåhi na
pokpok
nai
guaha na biåhi na
pokpok
na
ti
malago'
humånao
"or or whatever"
ya
nu
guaha na biåhi
si
tatå-hu
na
ha chule'
ha'
i
te'la'-ña
ya
ha palai'i
"to see what happens"
"funny"
dai
este
as
tatå-hu
lao
si
tatå-hu
manlolommok
"whatever"
lom--
"whatever"
nu
"herbal"
ha lolommok
ya
guaha na biåhi na
palalai
"and usually it's um"
"you know just"
denegridu
"or something"
nai
"some unknown"
"unknown illness that crops up on the skin"
pus
ha palalai
på'go
ni
i
amot
pes
an
"you know"
"that- that's it"
"to just see if it works"
Ti
manggågao
si
nanå-hu
kopble
ti
manggågao
lao
ginen
i
minagof
i
"Yeah"
minagof--
ni
minagof-ñiha
ha'
manåna'i
kopble
Tåya'
na
ha renunsia
gui'
no
no
ti
ma chulele'i
nengkanno'
ayu
ha'
i
ayu
ah
nu
ah
ayu
ha'
anggen
ma nå'i
kopble
lao
ti
meggai
nai
ti
dångkolo
"whatevers whatever they"
"whatever they can give her"
"yeah"
"just out of the..."
"you know"
"kindness of their heart"
ma nå'i
ti
hu tungo'
dai
ennao
ah
ah
håfa
i
kuestion
para
si
påle'
Ti
hu--
oh
ti
hu--
"that was their lifestyle"
si
nanå-hu
nai
fina'nå'gue
gi as
nanå-ña
an
tatå-ña
"so she kinda grew up with her own family being suruhanus"
si
tatå-hu
"was just his own thing"
lao
ahm
"that that's"
"they- they just practiced it"
"since they were younger"
"from their own household"
Hunggan
hu hongge
hunggan
hu hongge
na
manli'e'-hu
meggai
ni
manma'ayuda
meggai
manma'ayuda
hu hongge
lao
ti
presisu
ha'
hu'
nai
ti-
ti
ti
ayu
nu
pa
bai
f--
pa
bai
falåggue'
Oh
Mana--
i--
i--
man--
manásangani
ha'
i
taotao
manásangani
ha'
anggen
håyi
nu
nu
malångu
patgon-ña
guaha na biåhi na
bula
guaha na biåhi na
"same family"
nu
"two or three times"
manmåfatto
"so it's a word of mouth among the locals"
"li- like I said"
nai
si
nanå-hu
ma tungo'
mås
put
i
amot-ña
si
tatå-hu
ma tungo'
mås
put
i
i
bidåda-ña
ni
i
kalan
nu-
guiya
ha'
la'mon
ni
tiningo'-ña
"so word of mouth"
Para
guåhu
nai
annai
annai
annai
ahm
"I don't wanna be negative"
lao
estotbao
ayi
ha estotba
yu'
ahm
para
u
guaha
siha
taotao
gi
guma'-måmi
sa'
guaha na biåhi na
ti
manmåmakmata
ham
esta
guaha
manmåfatto
taotao
ya
guaha na biåhi na
"late at night"
na
manåhanao
"so ah freedom around my house"
guaha na biåhi na
kalan
"restricted"
sa'
guaha
bisita
"so it never- it never"
"it never"
ahm
ti-
ti
ilek-
"it never said, 'oh, I want to do that'"
ti-
ti
"joy"
ti
"jump for joy"
-hu
nai
"for that so- because I did consider it kind of like an invasion of privacy for one"
"and um it's not that I didn't believe it because it-- I s-- I did see the results very very, very very positive results"
ya
bula
todu
tiempo
man--
man--
manma'agradesi
si
nanå-hu
bidåda-ña
lao
nu
ahm
mås
nai
matulaika
matulaika
i
tiempo
guihi
no
"I'm-- I mean I wasn't a homebound, I wasn't destined to be a homebound"
"I was out"
"learning and y'know going beyond that"
"frame of household"
nai
pus
um
ti--
ti--
ti
prisisu
ti--
ti--
ti
humålom
gi
kurason-hu
"and like I said"
nisita
na
un hongge
ya
nisita
na
un "dedicate"
hao
gi
ayu
na
klåsen
cho'cho'
Dångkolo
na
"dedication"
"yeah"
"yeah"
parehu
ha'
sinenten-ñiha
"we were up, y'know, we were-- we were"
"going outside of the framework of that"
"that"
ahm
"profession"
"I put water, I put eye-droplets in my eye and I'm now I'm tearing"
"No, I'll just use this little dry..."
"end"
"It..."
umm
"when I put eye-droplets in for the retinas"
"then it creates"
"tears"
"it takes away the dryness"
"so... okay, but I will have a drink"
klåru
para
hågu
un komprende
un komprende
nu
"Am I echoing?"
Månu
i
i
suruhånu
"and"
suruhåna
"No"
dai
åhe'
åhe'
Nu
mediku
ha'
nai
Guaha
unu
nu
na
palå'an
si
Rosalia Mateas
fana'an
Ma
na'saonao
ayu
na
palå'an
gi
FA--
ah
FESPAC
PACFES
"She was the one"
na
kana'
"She was the one that wanted to learn from my mother"
"And she'll always give my mother credit"
pus nu
guiya
nu
na
palå'an
nu
manå'amte
fana'an
na
tiempo
"and I think"
nu
manmanå'na'gue'
nu
åmot
no
"so"
ayu
na
ayu
ha'
na
palå'an
ni
tiningo'-hu
ni'
ha "follow"
si
nanå-hu
ya-
ya
"like I said"
todu
i
tiempo
ha
nåna'i
"credit"
si
nanå-hu
na
fina'nå'gue
nai
sa'
bula
famagu'on-ña
i
palå'an
ya
nu
fihu
manmalångu
"when they were kids"
no
"So she really believed in it"
ya
"She wanted to be a suruhåna and so I-- she became a suruhåna. So I know of her, as one"
"that learned from my mother"
Si--
mm
si
Rosalia
Ha'a.
Fejeran
"And she married a Mateo"
Fejeran
"I think"
taotao
su-
taotao
Tamuneng
ha'
Kalan
sikretu
Na
na
tiningo'-ñiha
"in their trade?"
"as-- as"
suruhånu
"and"
suruhåna
tåya'
"No, they--"
tåya'
sikretu
anggen
tåya'
nu
"no, no"
tåya'
"voodoo magic"
tåya'
"no".
Si
tatå-hu
nai
guaha na biåhi na
nu
nu
ah
ha lemlem
ham
ni
ayi
i
anggen
manåmte
nai
guaha na biåhi na
guaha na biåhi na
nu
ti--
kalan
"unbelievable"
håfa
bidå-ña
"or whatever, you know"
"so"
"it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny"
lao
guaha na biåhi na
"surprising"
håfa
nu
yo-ña
"result"
"but that's about it, just--"
"but no secrets"
"I-- because"
Bula
esta
manåmko'
ya
manmåtai
ya
nu
nu
ti
meggai
nu
man--
manmalago'
"it could be"
"it could be phasing out"
"and um"
umm
sa'
i
pumalon
sa'
bula
suruhåna
gi
tiempon
nanå-hu
lámeggai
ha'
siha
Yigo
yan
fa'na'an
Barigåda
"and"
lao
fa'na'an
dai
todu
manmåtai
ayu
siha
na
manåmko'
"including my own parents, of course"
manhånao
esta
manmåtai
ya
ti
hu hungok
dai
tåya'
hiningóngok-hu
nu
nu
mumalago'
Ni
ginen
i
manhoben
"yeah"
"yeah"
Si
Rosalia
buente
mås
tumungo'
ennao
na
kuestion
"well"
"they--"
"they want to--"
"they they they want to try their very very best"
anggen
anggen
ti
fina'maolek
i
patgon
gi
fine'nana
biåhi
ilek-ña
nanå-hu
konne'
ta'lo
mågi
agupa'
estaki
ha li'e
na
séntaya'
ha'
para
u cho'gue
"so it's, uh, determination"
na
pa
u mana'homlo'
i
patgon
there"
ni
i
i
"modern"
na
mediku
yan
nu
ahm
tåya'
as
nanå-hu
na
ha rinunsia
gue'
"they never turn anybody away"
"so that's, that's another thing they--"
Ti
siña
nu
ti--
ti
todu
tiempo
"she'll just give it a try"
ya
ahm
"so its ah its dedication"
ni
i
pa
u na'homlo'
i
taotao
na
mamperehu
Ti
hu--
ti
hu tungo'
lao
nu
anggen
ilek-ta
nai
anggen
nu
anggen
atdedet
patgon
umålok
si
nanå-hu
nai
guaha na biåhi
ha faisen
esta
un
konne'
pa
i
mediku
ya
nu
tåya'
nu
ti
inayuda
lek-ña
unggan
esta
dai
saina-hu
hu chagi
hu chagi
esta
ya
ti
inayuda
Pues
lek-ña
"okay"
maila'
ya
ta
chagi
"so, so"
guaha na biåhi na
ha konne'
ha'
nai
tåya'
kuestion
lao
guaha na biåhi na
ha faisen
Kao
esta
nu
un
konne'
pa
i
mediku
"it depends"
"I-- I don't really know, you know, their"
håfa
"their"
"main ah main steps"
lao
"its all kinds"
ti
"Oh, I'm sure maybe yeah, I'm sure, maybe there is an example of that"
"I mean it's not always a guarantee"
nai
"No"
U--
unggan
ni
ayi
para
ahm
para
bai
in chuli'i
gue'
ni
i
åmot
"mostly my brothers did that for her"
sa'
manhåhanao
huyong
gi
halom tåno'
"or"
para
i
puntan
tåsi
para
u ma chule'
este
siha
na
klåsen
åmot
"and... and really that's about it"
anggen
yan
guaha na biåhi na
anggen
ha nisita
na
pa
u ma lommok
guaha na biåhi na
ha faisen
ham
guaha na biåhi na
ha faisen
ham
para
bai
en lommok
lao
pinat
siha
ha'
mås
chumocho'gue
ennao
si
tatå-hu
guiya
ha'
umu'uyi
i
amot-ña
ha
lólommok
i
amot-ña
si
nanå-hu
nu
anggen
ha
nisita
nu
åmot
nu
mámaisen
para
u
guaha na biåhi na
ha faisen
i
"patient"
i
familian
i
"patient"
pau
hånao
ya
ma chule'
åmot
siha
ya
"or"
guaha na biåhi na
ha faisen
ayi
i
che'lu-hu
lao
pinat
i
familia
ha
fáfaisen
hånao
låhi-hu
ya
un chule'
ayi
i
åmot
gi
i
taigi
"and"
taigi
anggen
ha tungo'
i
taotao
anggen
ti
ha tungo
ah
"then"
ah
unu
na
che'lu
"No, nothing special"
Håfa
na
klåsen
"patient"
"not really, no"
"i-- its just kind of a routine"
"not really"
"no"
ayu
ha'
i
sénmalangu
ni'
guaha na biåhi
i
patgon
chatta
humåhagong
iyo-ña
"colic"
ayu
mås
makkat
ma--
sa'
nisita
na
para
u
u guesgues
huyong
ni
kalulot-ña
nai
makkat
ayu
ya
ha na'muta'
i
patgon
ha na'muta'
"take it out"
"I don't know"
"no I don't-- I don't understand"
mmm
"I don't know if I can give an opinion on that"
ti
ti
ti
"well"
ti
hu spíspiha
palåbra
"I mean I don't know"
kao
gua-
kao
guaha
håfa
kao
guaha
kuentos
hu hungok
put
put
nu
suruhåna
oh
kao
guaha
kuentos-ñiha
Ni
ti
hu húhungok
på'go
"No"
"I don't have a-- I don't have a-- I can't answer that question 'cause I'm not in contact with suruhåna"
Tåya'
esta
fa'na'an
manlálasa
na
bånda
"Guam, I--"
ti
ti
ti
meggai
esta
fa'na'an
suruhåna
nai
ayi
i
manlálasa
"that I know of, yeah"
"y-- for my mother, for my mother only"
i
"tension"
siha
anggen
anggen
ke'yao
hao
anggen
nu
"if you have a sprain"
"um, she'll--"
"she'll ma-- massage"
i
i
i
i
"muscle around it"
"and ah"
"or"
i
"tension"
nai
bula
ayi
i
mantension
guini mågi
"she'll... just regular massaging like any other masseur"
"she'll..."
"massage like that"
"and so"
ayu
siha
"masseur"
ni
manmachócho'cho'
på'go
"I think they do the same thing"
nai
ayi
i
ha lasa
hao
på'go
ni
iyo-mu
"tension"
iyo-mu
"muscle"
ahm
hunggan
nai
guaha na biåhi na
ma sångan
noh
na
guaha
kalan
guaha
na
kalan
guaha
iyo-ña
nai
"powers"
noh
guaha na biåhi na
kalan
ma sångan
ayu
"and"
ah
si
tatå-hu
nai
guaha na biåhi na
kalan
masångan
kalan
guaha
dai
ayu
na
bihu
nu
iyo-ña
nu
spiritu
nai
"and y'know it's, it's a, it's"
"kind of like"
"um"
"kind of like"
hunggan
kalan
guaha
yon-ñiha
nai
nu
"healing power"
Kalan
guaha
iyo-ña
"healing power"
"so"
siña
un ågang
ayu
spiritu
anggen
anggen
malangu'on
"freely"
lao
nu
ahm
kalan
guaha
nai
iyon-ñiha
"powers"
nai
siña
manmanåmte
ya
siña
ma na'homlo'
kalan
dångkolo
yu
na
"you know"
nis--
"yeah"
"oh no"
ta--
"no they don't have, they don't have a--"
Tåya'
ni
ayi
i
ma konsusult
na
nu
tåya' ni
ayu
tåya' ni
ayu
ayi
kalan
iyon-ñiha
ha'
nu
"aura"
"you know"
ni
ayi
i
iyon-ñiha
ha'
nai
ni
kalan
ma
gai
spiritu
"no"
tåya'
ni
ennao
tåya'
n--
"there's no magic"
"there's no voodoo"
"it's just really just a willingness to do a-- to t-- to have, y'know, the power to heal"
ni
ni'
iyo-ña
"powers"
ni
iyon-ña
"powers"
ni
pa u
fanmanhomlo'
"no"
"it's kinda like a job everyday"
"yeah"
ayi
"you know"
ma--
ma á'atan
i
taotao
ma li'e'
håfa
ha nisisita
pes
ma
cho'gue
håfa
ma chócho'gue
"yeah"
lao
"year round, year round"
na
manmanå'amte
muskuela
hu'
Hagåtña
"Agana Elementary School"
"and then I transferred to Adelup"
"Adelup used to be an elementary school"
"where the..."
"the governor's office is right now"
"that used to be an elementary school"
"so I went to elementary school"
guihi
pes
månao
hu'
pa
GW
giya
Mongmong
"the old GW with the quonset hut"
"I went to that school"
"then I finally graduated at JFK"
"the first year that JFK was called JFK"
"'cause before that"
"Tumon High School"
ayu
eståba
pus
mugraduate
hu'
gi
JFK
pes
muskuela
hu'
gi
"College"
ha'a
"I--"
månao
hu'
pa
Amerika
månao
hu'
para
California
"and I was taking classes here and there"
pes
annai
måtto
hu'
tatte'
"I ki-- I finally"
"finished my, um..."
"here at UOG"
Macho'cho'
hu'
"for Federal Government"
"I was a managerial..."
"contracting officer, I was an--"
"uh, manager"
"I was a contracting officer so I know a little about..."
"paralegal stuff"
åhe'
ti
ha faisen
hu'
ayi
nobio-hu
ti
malago'
Åhe'
dai
"yeah"
ti
malago'
u
u f--
guåhu
hu
faisen
gue'
ilek-hu
kao
malago'
ya
ta ásagua'
ilek-ña
"no"
"so that's it"
Ai
kana'
bumisinu
nai
sa'
unu
taotao
Aniguak
otro
taotao
Hulåle'
"Guess what!"
"Guess what!"
Si
tatå-hu
månao
guatu
ya
malasa
gi
as
nanå-hu
ah
månao
guatu
ya
po
malasa
si
tatå-hu
si
tatå-hu
månao
guatu
ya
po
malasa
gi as
nanå-hu
pues
linasa
gi as
nanå-hu
"and from there on, it was love!"
"isn't that funny?"
"oh boy, I think they were..."
"in their late..."
"in-- in their-- in their very early twenties maybe? I don't know"
"or, y'know, in their late teens, maybe?"
lao
kana'
bumisinu
nai
i
dos
pus nu
hagas
ha ripåra
na
ei
sa'
manlálasa
ayu
na
palå'an
yan
nu
"you know"
kalan
ya-ña
nai
pus
ha fa'malångu
gue'
ya
månao
ya
malasa
månao
ya
malasa
pus
"y'know, then they"
"then he proposed to her or whatever and"
umásagua
i
dos
si
nanå-hu
"is"
ah
"nineteen...fifteen and"
si
tatå-hu
"nineteen-oh-eight"
"I believe"
"or"
nu
"nineteen twenty-one? No-"
Ai
dai
ti
hu tungo'
maleffa
hu'
"Nineteen twenty-one"
fana'an
si
nanå-hu
"and my father, I can't remember, honestly it's terrible, I can't remember now what year"
"it's on their graves, but..."
eh
"no"
"no"
ah
oh
hamyo
guaha
mås
nu
ya
malago'
un tungo'
ahm
"we"
"I feel, ooh, this is sort of um-- it's a story"
"but, um"
"when--"
"yeah"
ha'a
nu
ahm
an
i
an
i
guaha na biåhi na
guaha
manmåtto
ya
ti
guaha na biåhi na
mambisita
"or that we think"
mambisita
lao
ti
mambisita
un
biåhi
nu
ahm
måtto
ayi
che'lu
para u
boka
talo'åni
nai
ya
nu
ha
hungok
i
kareta
nai
kumahúhulo'
ilek-ña
'lani'
"he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat"
yan
guah
bisita
"when"
annai
pus
ha nangga
nai
ha nangga
"y'know"
tåya'
bisita
måtto
lao
ha hungok
ha'
ha hungok
ha'
i
kareta
na
måtto
ha hungok
ha'
"and and to to us that was a sign"
oh
guah
måtto
bisita
"so that kind of a memory"
"also, um"
ah
i
i
ayu
na
klåsen
klåsen
"and and we think"
na
na
guah
siha
ayi
i
manmåtai
yan
manmåtto
manmambisita
taigui
na
klåsi
"but"
"in their particular job"
nu
ti
ti
ti
meggai
nu
ahm
ti
megga--
tåya'
nu
ah
tåya'
"particular"
ahm
"favorite story or anything like that"
lao
lao
lao
i-
"it"
"only that I-- it... it's um"
"it's kind of, um"
"after thing"
nai
ni
iyi
kalan
nu
mm
in
kalan
guah
bisita
manmåfatto
ha'
ya
ti
ya
ti
pa
u fanma'åmte
"it it just"
"that's what we recollect sometimes"
hami
ni
famagu'on
na
"okay, that's one experience, and then, you know, uh"
guah
ta'lo
mås
lao
lao
"I-"
"I, I can't remember it all right now"
"that's the one thing that I remember"
"very physical"
na
guah
måtto
kareta
tåya'
"very physical"
tåya'
lao
"other than that"
bula
siha
manmåfatto
ni
ni
ai
guaha na biåhi na
ti
manmakmåta
ham
Ha'a
"yeah"
lao
lao
manluhan
nai
i
i
"y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible"
guatu
gi
i
suruhåna
sa'
man--
man-"up all night"
man--
man--
man--
manluhan
ni
famagu'on-ñiha
"so they come very early sometime"
"the..."
"yeah"
"so"
"but, um"
"that-- that's it, really"
"y'know that that kinda stands out"
"this is the... after-- afterlife or something"
"for uh"
"a little"
memorias
"or"
"yeah"
"that's kinda what you were looking for?"
monhåyan
monhåyan
esta
Okay
dai
ai
pus nu
ahm
ah
"hopefully"
na
man--
inayuda
ni
esudi-
estudiå-mu
Maolek
kay
tutuhon
man
listo
hao--
listo
hao
Okay
ah
okay
Dispensa
kay
bai
bai
entrodusen
maisa
ha'
yu'
ta'lo
Guåhu
si
Fu'una
Sanz
ma'estra
n
CHamoru
yu'
giya
PC Lujan
ah
bente
siette
åños
yu'
ya
taotao
Yo'ña
yu'
Familia
n
Listo
si
nåna
-hu
yan
familia
n
Talo'
i
si
tåta
-hu
ginen
Sinahånña
okay
ah
yan
hågu
siñora
kao
siña
un
entrodusen
maisa
hao
Kao
kao
guaha
man
che'lu
-mu
Oh
lao
lao
dos
ha'
dos
ha'
hamyo
O
mås
ki
hågu
Kuånto
put
todu
na
famagu'on
sais
ti
man
entresao
hamyo
lao
lao
kao
kao
ma
faisen
hamyo
kao
malago'
tungo'
put
este
hunggan
hunggan
oh
pues
kao
guaha
otro
cho'cho'
-ñiha
pat
ennao
ha'
bida
-ñiha
~ñi
"ohh, okay"
yan
man-
så~
såga
hamyo
giya
Ma'ina
ennao
i
bånda
n
nåna
-mu
pat
si
tåta
-mu
taotao
månu
si
nåna
-mu
oh
oh
pues
hihot
hihot
ha'
mhmm
okay
ah
pues
kao
hagas
hao
ha'
<um>
fino'
CHamoru
gi
eskuela
mhmm
Kao
makkat
ya
hågu
un
fa'nå'gue
si
tåta
-hu
Taiguihi
eskuela
lokkue'
Ngai'an
ah
anggen
ti
lålalo'
Ngai'an
na
mafañågu
hao
"nineteen forty-seven"
Kao
hågu
i
i
mås
åmko'
oh
"okay"
ahh
"kay"
hu
taitai
i
kuestion
guini
kao
un
tungo'
håfa
i
nå'an
familia
-mu
pat
håfa
mås
ma
tungo'
-ñiha
chå
kalan
i
gimen
ha!
Familia
n
Lachi
Enna'
Familia
n
CHå
yan
familia
n
Lache
Wow
ni
ngai'an
na
u
hungok
familia
n
CHå
yan
familia
n
Lachi
hunggan
ahh
Okay
esta
hu
faisen
este
okay
ah
okay
Tåtte
para
i
suruhåna
håyi
<um>
hå~
hånao
para
i
suruhåna
håfa
na
klåse
n
taotao
Håfa
siha
na
rasón
ni
man
si~
bisita
mmhm
famagu'on
Oh
fine'nana
wow
uhm
Pues
taimanu
ni
ma
pa~
åpas
i
siha
Pues
håfa
na
klåsi
Håfa
Kalan
Kao
ma
nå~
nå'i
nengkanno'
pat
Siña
ma
apåsi
mmhm
Okay
ah
pues
ngai'an
na
man
hånao
para
si
påle'
ya
ngai'an
na
ma
hånao
para
i
suruhåna
Pues
si
påle'
Hunggan
kay
ah
taimanu
na
un
tungo'
put
i
åmot
put
pat
i
kinalamten
suruhåna
Kao
kao
un
hongge
ni
i
åmot
-ñiha
Hunggan
mmh
ah
taimanu
na
ma
tungo'
este
na
kinalamten
put
suruhåna
Bula
man
malångu
ah
Pues
sa'
håfa
mohon
na
na
ti
man
malago'
hågu
pat
i
man
che'lu
-mu
para
u
saonao
i
suruhåna
Ya-
Hunggan
hunggan
hunggan
parehu
i
man
che'lu
-mu
lokkue'
i
<in>
siente
-ñiha
Hunggan
ahm
"kay"
nangga
"okay"
kao
kao
guaha
"kay"
listo
sinora
hunggan
ah
Kao
guaha
tiningo'
pat
fina'nå'gue
na
malago'
na
un
tungo'
på'go
sa'
guaha
minaolek
-ña
Kao
guaha
na
malago'
un
tungo'
på'go
tåya'
"kay"
pues
i
kao
hågu
un
bisista
suruhåna
anggen
malångu
hao
pat
i
åhe'
Kao
un
tungo'
otro
na
suruhåna
yan
suruhånu
mmhm
hunggan
Taotao
Guåhan
gue'
ah
okay
kao
guaha
ah
Nangga
Håfa
na
bånda
n
yo'åmte
ni'
ti
ma
så~
sångan
gi
me'nan
-miyu
Kalan
sikretu
Kao
mmhm
Hunggan
ilek-
-ña
guini
"what parts were kept secret from"
Hunggan
kao
Hunggan
Tåya'
tiningo'
-mu
"-s"
sa'
ti
ma
sangåni
hao
no
"Kay"
ah
på'go
na
tiempo
håfa
mohon
påtte
n
yo'åmte
siha
Gi
gi
kuminidåt
gi
familia
yan
taiguennao
siha
Kao
kao
kao
mohon
siña
u
lå'la'
gi
mamaila'
na
tiempo
Kao
siempre
lå~
lå'la'
ha'
i
suruhåna
"you know"
i
i
kinalamten
i
suruhåna
Ginen
i
i
man
hoben
ah
Kao
guaha
i
parehu
-ña
i
suruhåna
yan
i
i
mediku
Parehu
Okay
ngai'an
okay
pues
i
man
malångu
na
taotao
ngai'an
para
u
falak
i
mediku
ya
ngai'an
para
u
falak
i
suruhåna
Kao
un
tungo'
Pues
i
i
man
malångu
siha
kao
kao
man
malak
i
mediku
fine'nana
pues
man
bisita
i
suruhånu
Kao
kao
guaha
ahm
ma
susedi
na
ti
siña
ma
homlo'
i
taotao
ya
pues
para
u
sångan
"okay"
sigi
para
i
mediku
sa'
ti
siña
hu
ayuda
hao
Kao
guaha
"Okay"
ah
pues
yanggen
påtgon
hao
kao
kao
un
yu~
ayuda
si
nåna
-hu
pat
si
tåta
-mu
Åhe'
mm-hm
Hågu
un
yu~
ayuda
ah
ah
kao
un
tungo'
håfa
bida
-ñiha
~ñi
åntes
måtto
i
taotao
åntes di
u
måtto
i
taotao
Tåya'
tåya'
klåsi
n
para
u ma
pripåra
åhe'
ah
kay
ilek
-ña
guini
kao
man
la~
lasa
hao
lao
ilek
-mu
åhe'
noh
Kay
kao
un
tungo'
håyi
mås
makkat
para
u ma
åmte
Håfa
na
klåsi
n
chetnot
chetnot
pat
taotao
"yeah"
Kao
un
un
tungo'
håfa
na
klåsi
n
chetnot
makkat
uh
makkat
para
u
åmte
ah
Håfa
hinasso
-mu
nu
i
åmot
yan
i
yo'åmte
ginen
sanlågu
Uh
"kay"
gi
fino'
English
"what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?"
"kay"
maolek ha'
ah
kao
guaha
finiho'
siha
ni
ti
un
hu~
hungok
på'go
kalan
fino'
fino'
suruhåna
fino'
suruhånu
na
klåsi
n
palåbra
finiho'
siha
mmhm
klåsi
n
klåsin
n
kuentos
mmhm
Ni
ti
un
hu
hungok
på'go
mmhm
Kao
un
tungo'
ah
klåsi
n
kuentos
para
i
man
la~
lasa
ha'
na
bånda
mmhm
Kao
kao
parehu
todu
klåsi
n
lasa
"okay, let me--"
Kao
guaha
nå'an
ånti
ni
un
tungo'
ginen
man
saina
-mu
ånti
kalan
aniti
espiritu
kalan
taiguennao
na
guaha
ga'chong
Hunggan
Kao
kao
kao
guaha na
ilek-
-ñiha
na
ma
tu~
kuentusi
i
ånte
pat
i
taotaomo'na
kao
kao
ilek-
-ña
siña
man
li'e'
"Kay"
kao
kao
guaha
uh
tiempo
pat
såkkan
ni
ma
cho~
cho'gue
uh
kalan
kao
guaha
tiempo
gi
såkkan
ni
ni'
ma
para
ma
cho'gue
espesiåt
na
kinalamten
ah
kay
fa'na'an
ennao
todu
i
kuestión
hunggan
uh
"okay"
uh
este
ha'
put
hågu
på'go
uh
pat
sa'
malago'
bai
bai
faisen
hao
ha'
pues
uh
mafañågu
hao
"nineteen forty-seven"
pues
amånu
<um>
eskuela
hao
hunggan
guini
GCC
pat
Unibetsidat
"ohh"
Pues
amånu
na
macho'cho'
hao
Håfa
na
klåsi
n
cho'cho'
"ohh"
ya
<um>
asågua
Kao
guaha
kao
guaha
famagu'on
-mu
Pues
pues
si
nåna
-mu
yan
si
tåta
-mu
kao
un
tungo'
taimanu
<um>
á
sodda'
siha
"ohh"
mmhm
pues
ennao
ha'
sa'
Ha
lasa
si
nåna
-mu
Guiya
si
nåna
-mu
"ohh!"
hunggan
Kao
un
tungo'
kuåntos
åños
siha
Håfa
na
såkkan
i
mafañågu
si
nåna
-mu
yan
si
tåta
-mu
"wow"
ahh
dispensa
Kao
guaha
kuestión
-miyu
ta'lo
ta'lo
"yeah"
lao
ha
hungok
i
kareta
maseha håfa
na
ora
man
få~
fåtto
pat
"ohh"
man
monhåyan
hunggan
hunggan
good
kay
begin
PL
ready
PRO[2S]
ready
PRO[2S]
okay
ah
okay
pardon.me
kay
IRR.AGR[1S]
IRR.AGR[1S]
introduce
self
just
PRO[1S]
again
PRO.EMP[1S]
UNM
Fu'una
Sanz
teacher
LNK
CHamoru
PRO[1S]
LCL
PC Lujan
ah
twenty
seven
years
PRO[1S]
and
person
Yo'ña
PRO[1S]
family
LNK
Listo
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
and
family
LNK
Talo'
DET.DEF
UNM
father
1S.POSS
LCL
Sinahånña
okay
ah
and
PRO.EMP[2S]
ma'am
YNQ
can
AGR[2S]
introduce
self
PRO[2S]
YNQ
YNQ
there.is
AGR[PL]
sibling
2S.POSS
oh
but
but
two
just
two
just
PRO.EMP[2PL]
oh
more
than
PRO.EMP[2S]
How.many
for
all
LNK
children
six
NEG
AGR[PL]
interested
PRO.EMP[2PL]
but
but
YNQ
YNQ
AGR[3PL]
ask
PRO.EMP[2PL]
whether
want
know
for
this
yes
yes
oh
so
YNQ
there.is
other
work
3PL.POSS
or
that
only
activity
3PL.POSS
PROG
ohh, okay
and
ARG[PL]
PROG
stay
PRO.EMP[2PL]
LCL
Ma'ina
that
DET.DEF
side
LNK
mother
1S.POSS
or
UNM
father
1S.POSS
person
where
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
oh
oh
so
close
close
just
mhmm
okay
ah
so
YNQ
long.time
PRO[2S]
only
AGR[nPL]
speak
CHamoru
LCL
school
mhmm
YNQ
difficult
and
PRO.EMP[2S]
AGR[2S]
teach
UNM
father
1S.POSS
like.that
school
also
When?
ah
if
NEG
angry
When?
LNK
born
PRO[2S]
nineteen forty-seven
YNQ
PRO[2S]
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
most
old
oh
okay
ah
kay
AGR[1S]
read
DET.DEF
question
here
YNQ
AGR[2S]
know
what
DET.DEF
name
family
2S.POSS
or
what
most
PASS
know
3PL.POSS
tea
like
DET.DEF
drink
ha!
family
LNK
wrong
Enna'
family
LNK
tea
and
family
LNK
wrong
wow
not
ever
COMP
IRR.AGR[1S]
hear
family
LNK
tea
and
family
LNK
wrong
yes
ahh
okay
already
AGR[1S]
ask
this
okay
ah
okay
back
to
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
who?
AGR[nPL]
PROG
go
for
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
what?
LNK
type
LNK
person
what?
PL
LNK
reason
that
AGR[nPL]
PROG
visit
mmhm
women
oh
first
wow
um
so
how
that
PASS
PROG
payment
APPL
PRO.EMP[3PL]
sp
what?
LNK
type
what?
like
YNQ
AGR[3PL]
PROG
give
food
or
able
AGR[3PL]
pay
mmhm
okay
ah
so
when
COMP
AGR[PL]
go
for
UNM
priest
and
when
COMP
AGR[3PL]
go
for
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
so
UNM
priest
yes
kay
ah
how
COMP
AGR[2S]
know
for
DET.DEF
medicine
for
or
DET.DEF
activity
traditional.healer(f)
YNQ
YNQ
AGR[2S]
believe
that
DET.DEF
medicine
3PL.POSS
yes
mmh
ah
how
COMP
AGR[3PL]
know
this
LNK
activity
for
traditional.healer(f)
many
AGR[PL]
sick
ah
so
because
what?
marker
COMP
COMP
NEG
AGR[PL]
want
PRO.EMP[2S]
or
DET.DEF
AGR[PL]
sibling
1S.POSS
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
participate
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
like
yes
yes
yes
same
DET.DEF
AGR[PL]
sibling
2S.POSS
also
DET.DEF
NOM
feel
3PL.POSS
yes
um
okay
wait
okay
YNQ
YNQ
there.is
okay
ready
ma'am
yes
ah
YNQ
there.is
knowledge
or
lesson
COMP
want
COMP
AGR[2S]
know
now
because
there.is
benefit
3S.POSS
YNQ
there.is
COMP
want
AGR[2S]
know
now
nothing
okay
so
DET.DEF
YNQ
PRO.EMP[2S]
AGR[2S]
visit
traditional.healer(f)
if
ill
PRO[2S]
or
DET.DEF
no
YNQ
AGR[2S]
know
other
LNK
traditional.healer(f)
and
traditional.healer(m)
mmhm
yes
person
Guam
PRO[3S]
ah
okay
YNQ
there.is
ah
wait
what?
LNK
part
LNK
native.healer
OBL
NEG
AGR[3PL]
PROG
say
LCL
in.front.of
2PL.POSS
like
secret
YNQ
mmhm
yes
say
3S.POSS
here
what parts were kept secret from
yes
YNQ
yes
there.isn't
knowledge
2S.POSS
's(?)
because
NEG
AGR[3PL]
tell
PRO[2S]
yes
okay
ah
now
LNK
time
what?
CTRFCT
part
LNK
native.healer
PRO.EMP[3PL]
LCL
LCL
community
LCL
family
and
like.that
PRO.EMP[3PL]
YNQ
YNQ
YNQ
CTRFCT
can
IRR.AGR[3S]
alive
LCL
upcoming
LNK
time
YNQ
continue
PROG
alive
EMP
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
you know
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
action
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
from
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
PL
youth
ah
YNQ
there.is
DET.DEF
same
3S.POSS
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
and
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
doctor
same
okay
when
okay
so
DET.DEF
PL
sick
LNK
person
when
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
go.to
DET.DEF
doctor
and
when
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
go.to
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
YNQ
AGR[2S]
know
so
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
PL
sick
PRO.EMP[3PL]
YNQ
YNQ
AGR[PL]
go
DET.DEF
doctor
first
then
AGR[PL]
visit
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(m)
YNQ
YNQ
there.is
um
AGR[3PL]
happen
COMP
NEG
can
AGR[3PL]
heal
DET.DEF
person
and
then
IRR
IRR.AGR[3S]
say
okay
proceed
to
DET.DEF
doctor
because
NEG
can
AGR[1S]
help
PRO[2S]
YNQ
there.is
Okay
ah
so
if
child
PRO[2S]
YNQ
YNQ
AGR[2S]
PROG
help
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
or
UNM
father
2S.POSS
no
PRO.EMP[2S]
AGR[2S]
PROG
help
ah
ah
YNQ
AGR[2S]
know
what?
event
3PL.POSS
PROG
before
arrive
DET.DEF
person
before
IRR.AGR[3S]
arrive
DET.DEF
person
nothing
there.isn't
type
LNK
for
IRR.AGR[3PL]
prepare
no
ah
okay
say
3S.POSS
here
YNQ
ANTIP
PROG
massage
PRO[2S]
but
say
1S.POSS
no
TAG
okay
YNQ
AGR[2S]
know
who?
most
difficult
for
IRR.AGR[3PL]
heal
what?
LNK
type
LNK
wound
wound
or
person
yeah
YNQ
AGR[2S]
AGR[2S]
know
what?
LNK
type
LNK
wound
heavy
uh
heavy
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
heal
ah
what?
thought
2S.POSS
OBL
DET.DEF
medicine
and
DET.DEF
traditional.healer
from
outside
Uh
kay
LCL
language
English
what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?
kay
okay
ah
YNQ
there.is
words
PRO.EMP[3PL]
that
NEG
AGR[2S]
PROG
hear
now
like
language
language
traditional.healer(f)
language
traditional.healer(m)
LNK
type
LNK
word
word
PL
mmhm
type
LNK
type
LNK
speech
mmhm
that
NEG
AGR[2S]
PROG~
hear
today
mmhm
YNQ
AGR[2S]
know
ah
type
LNK
speech
for
DET.DEF
ANTIP
PROG
massage
EMP
LNK
side
mmhm
YNQ
YNQ
same
all
type
LNK
massage
okay, let me--
YNQ
there.is
name
spirit
that
AGR[2S]
know
from
PL
elder
2S.POSS
spirit
like
spirit
spirit
like
like.that
OBL
there.is
friend
yes
YNQ
YNQ
YNQ
sometimes (there.is COMP)
say
3S.POSS
COMP
AGR[3PL]
PROG
speak.to
DET.DEF
spirit
or
DET.DEF
ancestral.spirits
YNQ
YNQ
say
3S.POSS
can
AGR[PL]
see
Kay
YNQ
YNQ
there.is
uh
time
or
year
COMP
AGR[3PL]
PROG
do
uh
like
YNQ
there.is
time
LCL
year
COMP
COMP
AGR[3PL]
IRR
AGR[3PL]
do
special
LNK
activity
ah
okay
maybe
that
all
DET.DEF
question
yes
uh
okay
uh
this
EMP
about
PRO.EMP[2S]
now
uh
or
because
want
IRR
IRR
ask
PRO[2S]
EMP
so
uh
born
PRO[2S]
nineteen forty-seven
so
where?
AGR[nPL]
go.to.school
PRO[2S]
yes
here
GCC
or
ohh
So
where?
COMP
worked
PRO[2S]
what?
LNK
type
of
work
ohh
and
AGR[nPL]
marry
YNQ
there.is
YNQ
there.is
children
1S.POSS
so
then
UNM
mother
2S.POSS
and
UNM
father
2S.POSS
YNQ
AGR[2S]
know
how
AGR[nPL]
RECIP
find
PRO.EMP[3PL]
ohh
mmhm
so
that
just
because
AGR[3S]
massage
UNM
mother
2S.POSS
PRO.EMP[3S]
UNM
mother
2S.POSS
ohh!
yes
YNQ
AGR[2S]
know
how.many
years
PRO.EMP[3PL]
what?
LNK
year
DET.DEF
born
UNM
mother
2S.POSS
and
UNM
father
2S.POSS
wow
ahh
sorry
YNQ
there.is
question
2PL.POSS
again
again
yeah
but
AGR[3S]
hear
DET.DEF
car
whatever
LNK
hour
AGR[PL]
PROG
come
or
ohh
AGR[PL]
finished
yes
yes
mm-mm
mm-mm
guåhu
si
Bernadita
Terlaje
lao
ya-
-hu
na
bai
ma
ågang
Benit
ya
taotao
Ma'ina
yu'
mafañågu
hu'
"and"
ma
poksai
hu'
Ma'ina
pues
taotao
Tamuneng
hu'
på'go
ya
nu
ahm
si
nåna
-hu
Rihina
si
tåta
-hu
Jesus
Rehina
Måfnas
Terlaje
Jesus
Sålas
Terlaje
"both of them"
todu
i
dos
nu
suruhånu
"and"
suruhåna
si
nåna
-hu
nu
man
å~
åmte
nu
ayi
åmot
åmot
para
i
famagu'on
yan
nu
man
la~
lasa'
anggen
se'yon
hao
"or"
håfa
chetnot
-mu
man
la~
lasa
lao
pinat
famagu'on
ha
å~
åmte
si
tåta
-hu
"topical"
man
la~
palai
i
åmot
anggen
guaha
chetnot
guiya
ayu
da~
bida
-ña
pues nu
ayu
ayu
ha'
ayu
mås
nu
bida
-ñiha
~ñi
i
i
para
u fan
åmte
famagu'on
si
nåna
-hu
"primarily"
si
nåna
-hu
mås
nu
ahm
mås
nu
ah
man
å~
åmte
ki
si
tåta
-hu
håssan
si
tåta
-hu
na
man
åmte
solo
yi
chetnot
si
nåna
-hu
nu
ahm
bula
man
ma
la~
lasa
bula
man
ma
la~
lasa
gi
an
aksidente
hao
man
la~
lasa
anggen
nu
se'yon
hao
eyi
kalan
håfa
nu
na
<in>
mahetok
ha
(cho'cho'?)
ha
la~
lasa
hao
para
u
na'
suha
iyo
-mu
nu
"tension"
an
ah
anggen
nu
anggen
ah
anggen
un
"sprain"
hao
nai
anggen
nu
appleng
i
addeng
-mu
ah
ni
la~
lasa
hao
på'go
ni
ayu
para
u
para
u
ah
"primarily"
nu
i
"muscle"
ah
ha
na'
ha
na'
su
suha
i
"tension"
gi
"muscle"
nai
pues
ayu
pues
i
nu
kana'
kada
diha
guaha
taotao
giya
håmi
man-
man
ma
fåtto
ni
para
u fan
ma
åmte
an
famagu'on
kana'
kana'
ayi
i
mås
man
malångu
nu
ah
ayi
flema
ni
ti
siña
esta
nu
<in>
na'
huyong
ni
i
amot
i
mediku
ha
nå~
nå'yi
åmot
para
u
para
u
na'
huyong
i
flema
gi
i
patgon
pues
bula
na'
fan
homlo'
si
nåna
-hu
bula
na'
fan
homlo'
"so"
Nu
unu
na
che'lu-hu
-hu
lao
esta
måtai
man
so~
sotne
åmot
lao
ah
yan
man
so~
sotne
åmot
nåna
-hu
"and"
tåta
-hu
nai
lao
ma
li~
chuli'i
guatu
ni
hagon
puru
siha
hågon
nu
åmot
na
hågon
ha
so~
sotne
pues
unu
na
che'lu
-hu
nu
man
so~
man
so~
sotne
eståba
nai
lao
ha
ti
ah
ti
ha
chule'
ah
månu
ha'
na
guaha
malago'
åmot
ya
månu
ha'
månu
månu
ha'
na
månao
man
chule'
åmot
ayu
na
man
so~
sotne
lao
ti
kada
diha
ha
cho~
cho'gue
ayu
lao
esta
taigue
ayu
na
che'lu
lao
guiya
ha'
guiya
ha'
guiya
ha'
kåsi
kåsi
guiya
kåsi
nu
<um>
tattiyi
si
nåna
-hu
Ham
ha--
mås
åhe'
ti
hami
ni
i
pumalu
ti
hami
en
tattiyi
ti
ha
na'
ti
ha
na'
ti
ha
na'
saonao
ham
si
nåna
-hu
"and"
tåta
-hu
nisita
na
un
sen
"dedicated"
ni
ayu
na
klåse
n
cho'cho'
nai
nisita
na
un
un
gaige
gi
kurason
-mu
na
para
un
cho'gue
(a)yu
kada
diha
sa'
ma
ngo~
angokko
hao
"and also"
nisita
na
un
hongge
hågu
un
hongge
nai
pues
hami
nai
ni
i
ni
i
famagu'on
nåna
-hu
"and"
tåta
-hu
sais
sais
pues
nu
hami
ti
ti
ha
ti
ha
ti
ha
fuetsa
ham
si
nåna
-hu
"an"
tåta
-hu
para
bai in
tattiyi
siha
"yeah"
ti
um
ha
li'e'
na
ti
man
ti
man
gos
ah
ti
man
gos
entersao
ham
ha
li'e
ha'
ha
li'e'
ha'
"no"
no
tåya'
na
tåya'
na
ha
faisen
ham
ti
ti
ga'o-
-ñiha
na
bai
fan
"in".skuela
sa'
nu
ah
i
bisita
nai
estotbo
gi
halom
guma'
todu
tiempo
guaha
guaha
taotao
gi
gima'
tåya'
iyo-
-mu
"privacy"
nu
tåya'
tiempo
-mu
para
un
fan
estudia
sa'
nu
un
na~
nangga
na
para
u fan
hånao
para
u fan
hånao
para
guma'
-ñiha
pues
ayu
na
un
fan
sena
pues
ayu
na
un
fan
estudia
pues
ti
ha'
li'e'
ha'
si
nånu
-hu
an
tåta
-hu
na
ti
man
enteresao
ham
nu
ayu
na
klåsi
n
cho'cho'
"yeah"
"it just, it just"
"it just felt, that's their"
"that's their profession, that's their choosing"
ti
ha
fuetsas
ham
åhe'
"housewife"
ha'
si
nåna
-hu
si
tåta
-hu
nu
"gardener for the governor's house"
"he was a gardener there"
lao
ah
nu
ah
ayu
ha'
che'cho'
-ñiha
"y'know, just ah, farming?"
si
tåta
-hu
"farming"
ha'
nai
si
nåna
-hu
"housewife and ahm care-- caregiver"
Ma'ina
tak--
Ma'ina
iyo-
-måmi
"village"
i
bånda
n
tåta
-hu
ayu
na
lugåt
låo
"in fact"
nu
ah
i
bånda
n
nåna
-hu
mås
na
man
na
man
ah
"that I grew up with"
"my cousins from my mother's side"
pues nu
ahm
Ma'ina
Ma'ina
si
tåta
-hu
"originally"
taotao
Aniguak
si
nåna
-hu
si
nåna
-hu
"yeah"
si
nåna
-hu
"originally"
taotao
Hulåle'
pues
si
tåta
-hu
nai
man
gái
tåno'
gi
hulo'
gi
Nimitz Hill
man
ma
nå'i
tåno'
ni
i
ni
iyo-
-ñiha
nu
"forefathers"
yan
nu
ah
man
låncho
gi
hulo'
ayu
na
man
hånao
hulo'
Ma'ina
para
u fan
låncho
lao
todu
tiempo
man
hå~
hånao
para
i
tasi
man
man
peska
lokkue'
lao
"they were originally from Hagåtña and Anigua'"
ha'a
pues nu
ahm
dikike'
na
"village"
i
Ma'ina
ya
nu
ah
pues
i
bånda
n
nåna
-hu
na
na
mås
hu
tungo'
parentes
-hu
i
bånda
tåta
-hu
hu
tungo'
ha'
palu
lao
ti
gos
meggai
i
tåta
n
i
familia
n
Teresa
tiningo'
-hu
na
Terlaje
taotao
Yo'ña
siha
"From the time I was born, in fact I had to learn, I had to learn English"
gi
eskuela.
"I had to learn English"
gi
umm
Hagåtña
åhe'
dai
hu
like
ya-
-hu
ya
nu
hu
ko~
konne'
si
tåta
-hu
anggen
guaha
"homework"
hu
ko~
konne'
si
tåta
-hu
på'go
yan
matå'chong
ham
ya
hu
fa'nå'gue
ya
hu
fa'nå'gue
gue'
English
si
tåta
-hu
ha'a
ha'a
pues
nu
"I-- I-- no I-- it--"
ti
hu
na'
mappot
nu
<um>
tungo'
English
<um>
tungo'
"you know"
"I guess"
nu
ah
"I was very ah"
lao
hunggan
fino'
CHamoru
ha'
"my original tongue"
"nineteen forty-seven"
ha'a
guåhu
guåhu
mås
åmko'
ni'
<um>
låla'
"the very first born was a female"
lao
måtai
"so then I had two brothers before me"
pues
guåhu
pues
palå'an
pues
låhi
pues
palå'an
"six survivors"
ha'a
"yeah"
oh
si
nåna
-hu
familia
n
CHå
"and"
familia
da(?)
kalan
i
gimen
familia
"and"
familia
n
Lachi
a'a
familia
n
Lachi
"and"
familia
n
CHå
si
tåta
-hu
dai
si
tåta
-hu
sa'
ni
ni
ni
"you know I never did"
"was clear"
håfa
nu
iyo-
-ña
nu
"family name"
si
tåta
-hu
lao
fana'an
familia
n
Enna'
lao
si
nåna
-hu
familia
n
CHå
Lizama-Måfnas
si
nåna
-hu
ya
i
Lizåma
i
Lizama
familia
n
Lachi
fana'an
ayu
i
Måfnas
familia
n
CHå
ha'a
ha'a
meggai
parentes
-hu
nu
na
CHå
Familia
n
CHå
giya
Barigåda
Ha'a
i
Måfnas
nai
i
Måfnas
bula
bula
bula
nu
Barigåda
Måfnas
I
Lizåma
man
"spread out"
todu
"yeah"
Ayu
ayu
ayu
tiningo'
-hu
lao
si
tåta
-hu
dai
ti
hu
tungo'
håyi
nu
familia
n
nå'an
-ñiha
okay
håyi
siha
man
lå~
malångu
nu
meggai
biåhi
na
famagu'on
meggai
biåhi
sa'
ma-
"my mother was known"
"to be, ahm, herbal"
pues
nu
ah
i
famagu'on
man
ma
fåtto
ni
ayi
i
colic
pues
si
nåna
-hu
nai
anggen
anggen
gos
malangu
i
patgon
mamaisen
på'go
esta
un
konne'
para
i
mediku
esta
un
chagi
mediku
ah
chagi
nu
"you know"
guaha na biåhi na
ah
"just to get a background"
nai
ha
faisen
kao
esta
månao
para
i
mediku
ya
ti
<in>
ayuda
i
patgon
pues
ayu
na
"she'll get into her business"
pues nu
ahm
"she would make"
"herbal"
pues
ha
nå~
nå'yi
nu
ah
"something to, ahm..."
"to... to make the child cough"
noh
pues nu
ah
uyu
i
i
kannai
-ña
hålom
para
u
"scrape out whatever's choking that child"
ya
ha
na'
muta'
pues
meggai
meggai
famagu'on
man
få~
fåtto
sa'
"that was her reputation"
na
"herbal medicine"
då~
bida
-ña
si
tåta
-hu
yan
man
la~
lasa
bula
ya-
-ña
man
ma
lasa
guaha na biåhi na
dos
oras
si
nåna
-hu
ni
man
la~
lasa
ayu
siha
i
man-
i
malago'
man
ma
lasa
put
"tension"
put
ahm
guaha
ayi
man
aksidente
ya
man-
"you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck"
pues
"for"
ayi
siha
man
aksidente
ayu
siha
i
i
man
malago'
an
man
lasa
"for to relieve their tension and ah"
guaha
ayu
ma
fåtto
ha'
dai
para
u
ma
lasa
ayi
bihu
guaha na biåhi na
puede
para
u
malasa
ha'
pues
nu
pues
nu
lao
lao
meggaiña
meggaiña
"herbal"
si
na
na
famagu'on
nu
man
få~
fåtto
gi
guma'
-måmi
si
tåta
-hu
ayu
siha
i
guaha na biåhi na
pokpok
nai
guaha na biåhi na
pokpok
na
ti
malago'
<um>
hånao
"or or whatever"
ya
nu
guaha na biåhi
si
tåta
-hu
na
ha
chule'
ha'
i
to'la'
-ña
ya
ha
palai
i
"to see what happens"
"funny"
dai
este
as
tåta
-hu
lao
si
tåta
-hu
man
lo~
lommok
"whatever"
lommok
"whatever"
nu
"herbal"
ha
lo~
lommok
ya
guaha na biåhi na
la~
palai
"and usually it's um"
"you know just"
denegridu
"or something"
nai
"some unknown"
"unknown illness that crops up on the skin"
pues
ha
la~
palai
på'go
ni
i
åmot
pues
an
"you know"
"that- that's it"
"to just see if it works"
Ti
man
gågao
si
nåna
-hu
kopble
ti
man
gågao
lao
ginen
i
minagof
i
"Yeah"
minagof
ni
minagof
-ñiha
ha'
man
nå~
nå'i
kopble
Tåya'
na
ha
renunsia
gui'
no
no
ti
ma
le~
chule'
i
nengkanno'
ayu
ha'
i
ayu
ah
nu
ah
ayu
ha'
anggen
ma
nå'i
kopble
lao
ti
meggai
nai
ti
dångkolo
"whatevers whatever they"
"whatever they can give her"
"yeah"
"just out of the..."
"you know"
"kindness of their heart"
ma
nå'i
ti
hu
tungo'
dai
ennao
ah
ah
håfa
i
kuestion
para
si
påle'
Ti
hu
oh
ti
hu
"that was their lifestyle"
si
nåna
-hu
nai
<in>
fa'nå'gue
gi as
nåna
-ña
an
tåta
-ña
"so she kinda grew up with her own family being suruhanus"
si
tåta
-hu
"was just his own thing"
lao
ahm
"that that's"
"they- they just practiced it"
"since they were younger"
"from their own household"
Hunggan
hu
hongge
hunggan
hu
hongge
na
man
li'e'
-hu
meggai
ni
man
ma
ayuda
meggai
man
ma
ayuda
hu
hongge
lao
ti
presisu
ha'
hu'
nai
ti
ti
ti
ayu
nu
para
bai
falåggue'
para
bai
falåggue'
Oh
mana'-
i
i
mana'-
mana'
sångan
i
ha'
i
taotao
mana'
sångan
i
ha'
anggen
håyi
nu
nu
malångu
patgon
-ña
guaha na biåhi na
bula
guaha na biåhi na
"same family"
nu
"two or three times"
man
få~
fåtto
"so it's a word of mouth among the locals"
"li(ke) like I said"
nai
si
nåna
-hu
ma
tungo'
mås
put
i
åmot
-ña
si
tåta
-hu
ma
tungo'
mås
put
i
i
då~
bida
-ña
ni
i
kalan
nu-
guiya
ha'
la'mon
ni
tiningo'
-ña
"so word of mouth"
Para
guåhu
nai
annai
annai
annai
ahm
"I don't wanna be negative"
lao
estotbao
ayi
ha
estotba
yu'
ahm
para
u
guaha
siha
taotao
gi
guma'
-måmi
sa'
guaha na biåhi na
ti
man
ma~
makmåta
ham
esta
guaha
man
få~
fåtto
taotao
ya
guaha na biåhi na
"late at night"
na
man
hå~
hånao
"so ah freedom around my house"
guaha na biåhi na
kalan
"restricted"
sa'
guaha
bisita
"so it never- it never"
"it never"
ahm
ti
ti
ilek-
"it never said, 'oh, I want to do that'"
ti
ti
"joy"
ti
"jump for joy"
-hu
nai
"for that so- because I did consider it kind of like an invasion of privacy for one"
"and um it's not that I didn't believe it because it-- I s-- I did see the results very very, very very positive results"
ya
bula
todu
tiempo
man
man
man
ma
agradesi
si
nåna
-hu
da~
bida
-ña
lao
nu
ahm
mås
nai
ma
tulaika
ma
tulaika
i
tiempo
guihi
no
"I'm-- I mean I wasn't a homebound, I wasn't destined to be a homebound"
"I was out"
"learning and y'know going beyond that"
"frame of household"
nai
pues
um
ti
ti
ti
prisisu
ti
ti
ti
<um>
hålom
gi
kurason
-hu
"and like I said"
nisita
na
un
hongge
ya
nisita
na
un
"dedicate"
hao
gi
ayu
na
klåsi
n
cho'cho'
Dångkolo
na
"dedication"
"yeah"
"yeah"
parehu
ha'
<in>
siente
-ñiha
"we were up, y'know, we were-- we were"
"going outside of the framework of that"
"that"
ahm
"profession"
"I put water, I put eye-droplets in my eye and I'm now I'm tearing"
"No, I'll just use this little dry..."
"end"
"It..."
umm
"when I put eye-droplets in for the retinas"
"then it creates"
"tears"
"it takes away the dryness"
"so... okay, but I will have a drink"
klåru
para
hågu
un
komprende
un
komprende
nu
"Am I echoing?"
Månu
i
i
suruhånu
"and"
suruhåna
"No"
dai
åhe'
åhe'
Nu
mediku
ha'
nai
Guaha
unu
nu
na
palao'an
si
Rosalia Mateas
fana'an
Ma
na'saonao
ayu
na
palao'an
gi
(FestPAC)
ah
FESPAC
PACFES
"She was the one"
na
kana'
"She was the one that wanted to learn from my mother"
"And she'll always give my mother credit"
pues nu
guiya
nu
na
palao'an
nu
man
å~
åmte
fana'an
na
tiempo
"and I think"
nu
man
man
få'na'gue'
nu
åmot
no
"so"
ayu
na
ayu
ha'
na
palå'an
ni
tiningo'
-hu
ni'
ha
"follow"
si
nåna
-hu
ya-
ya
"like I said"
todu
i
tiempo
ha
nå~
nå'i
"credit"
si
nåna
-hu
na
<in>
fa'nå'gue
nai
sa'
bula
famagu'on
-ña
i
palå'an
ya
nu
fihu
man
malångu
"when they were kids"
no
"So she really believed in it"
ya
"She wanted to be a suruhåna and so I-- she became a suruhåna. So I know of her, as one"
"that learned from my mother"
Si
mm
si
Rosalia
Ha'a
Fejeran
"And she married a Mateo"
Fejeran
"I think"
taotao
(sumasaga)
taotao
Tamuneng
ha'
Kalan
sikretu
Na
na
tiningo'
-ñiha
"in their trade?"
"as-- as"
suruhånu
"and"
suruhåna
tåya'
"No, they--"
tåya'
sikretu
anggen
tåya'
nu
"no, no"
tåya'
"voodoo magic"
tåya'
"no".
Si
tåta
-hu
nai
guaha na biåhi na
nu
nu
ah
ha
lemlem
ham
ni
ayi
i
anggen
man
åmte
nai
guaha na biåhi na
guaha na biåhi na
nu
ti
kalan
"unbelievable"
håfa
bida
-ña
"or whatever, you know"
"so"
"it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny"
lao
guaha
na
biåhi
na
"surprising"
håfa
nu
iyo-
-ña
"result"
"but that's about it, just--"
"but no secrets"
"I-- because"
Bula
esta
man
åmko'
ya
man
måtai
ya
nu
nu
ti
meggai
nu
man
man
malago'
"it could be"
"it could be phasing out"
"and um"
umm
sa'
i
pumalon
sa'
bula
suruhåna
gi
tiempo
n
nåna
-hu
lámeggai
ha'
siha
Yigo
yan
fa'na'an
Barigåda
"and"
lao
fa'na'an
dai
todu
man
måtai
ayu
siha
na
man
åmko'
"including my own parents, of course"
man
hånao
esta
man
måtai
ya
ti
hu
hungok
dai
tåya'
<in>
hungok
~ngo
-hu
nu
nu
<um>
malago'
Ni
ginen
i
man
hoben
"yeah"
"yeah"
Si
Rosalia
buente
mås
<um>
tungo'
ennao
na
kuestion
"well"
"they--"
"they want to--"
"they they they want to try their very very best"
anggen
anggen
ti
<in>
fa'maolek
i
patgon
gi
fine'nana
biåhi
ilek-
-ña
nåna
-hu
konne'
ta'lo
mågi
agupa'
estaki
ha
li'e
na
sén
taya'
ha'
para
u
cho'gue
"so it's, uh, determination"
na
para
u
ma
na'homlo'
i
patgon
"that's, that's the connection there"
ni
i
i
"modern"
na
mediku
yan
nu
ahm
tåya'
as
nåna
-hu
na
ha
rinunsia
gue'
"they never turn anybody away"
"so that's, that's another thing they--"
Ti
siña
nu
ti
ti
todu
tiempo
"she'll just give it a try"
ya
ahm
"so its ah its dedication"
ni
i
para
u
na'homlo'
i
taotao
na
man
parehu
Ti
hu
ti
hu
tungo'
lao
nu
anggen
ilek-
-ta
nai
anggen
nu
anggen
de~
atdet
patgon
<um>
ålok
si
nåna
-hu
nai
guaha na biåhi
ha
faisen
esta
un
konne'
para
i
mediku
ya
nu
tåya'
nu
ti
<in>
ayuda
ilek-
-ña
hunggan
esta
dai
saina
-hu
hu
chagi
hu
chagi
esta
ya
ti
<in>
inayuda
Pues
ilek-
-ña
"okay"
maila'
ya
ta
chagi
"so, so"
guaha na biåhi na
ha
konne'
ha'
nai
tåya'
kuestion
lao
guaha na biåhi na
ha
faisen
Kao
esta
nu
un
konne'
para
i
mediku
"it depends"
"I-- I don't really know, you know, their"
håfa
"their"
"main ah main steps"
lao
"its all kinds"
ti
"Oh, I'm sure maybe yeah, I'm sure, maybe there is an example of that"
"I mean it's not always a guarantee"
nai
"No"
hunggan
hunggan
ni
ayi
para
ahm
para
bai
in
chule'
i
gue'
ni
i
åmot
"mostly my brothers did that for her"
sa'
man
hå~
hånao
huyong
gi
hålom tåno'
"or"
para
i
punta
n
tåsi
para
u ma
chule'
este
siha
na
klåsi
n
åmot
"and... and really that's about it"
anggen
yan
guaha na biåhi na
anggen
ha
nisita
na
para
u ma
lommok
guaha na biåhi na
ha
faisen
ham
guaha na biåhi na
ha
faisen
ham
para
bai
en
lommok
lao
pinat
siha
ha'
mås
<um>
cho~
cho'gue
ennao
si
tåta
-hu
guiya
ha'
<um>
u~
uyi
i
åmot
-ña
ha
lo~
lommok
i
åmot
-ña
si
nåna
-hu
nu
anggen
ha
nisita
nu
åmot
nu
man
faisen
para
u
guaha na biåhi na
ha
faisen
i
"patient"
i
familia
n
i
"patient"
para u
hånao
ya
ma
chule'
åmot
siha
ya
"or"
guaha na biåhi na
ha
faisen
ayi
i
che'lu
-hu
lao
pinat
i
familia
ha
fa~
faisen
hånao
låhi
-hu
ya
un
chule'
ayi
i
åmot
gi
i
taiguihi
"and"
taiguihi
anggen
ha
tungo'
i
taotao
anggen
ti
ha
tungo
ah
"then"
ah
unu
na
che'lu
"No, nothing special"
Håfa
na
klåsi
n
"patient"
"not really, no"
"i-- its just kind of a routine"
"not really"
"no"
ayu
ha'
i
sen
malangu
ni'
guaha na biåhi
i
patgon
chatta
<um>
ha~
hågong
iyo-
-ña
"colic"
ayu
mås
makkat
makkat
sa'
nisita
na
para
u
u
guesgues
huyong
ni
kålulot
-ña
nai
makkat
ayu
ya
ha
na'
muta'
i
patgon
ha
na'
muta'
"take it out"
"I don't know"
"no I don't-- I don't understand"
mmm
"I don't know if I can give an opinion on that"
ti
ti
ti
"well"
ti
hu
spi~
spiha
palåbra
"I mean I don't know"
kao
guaha
kao
guaha
håfa
kao
guaha
kuentos
hu
hungok
put
put
nu
suruhåna
oh
kao
guaha
kuentos
-ñiha
Ni
ti
hu
hu~
hungok
på'go
"No"
"I don't have a-- I don't have a-- I can't answer that question 'cause I'm not in contact with suruhåna"
Tåya'
esta
fa'na'an
man
la~
lasa
na
bånda
"Guam, I--"
ti
ti
ti
meggai
esta
fa'na'an
suruhåna
nai
ayi
i
man
la~
lasa
"that I know of, yeah"
"y-- for my mother, for my mother only"
i
"tension"
siha
anggen
anggen
ke'yao
hao
anggen
nu
"if you have a sprain"
"um, she'll--"
"she'll ma-- massage"
i
i
i
i
"muscle around it"
"and ah"
"or"
i
"tension"
nai
bula
ayi
i
man
"tension"
guini mågi
"she'll... just regular massaging like any other masseur"
"she'll..."
"massage like that"
"and so"
ayu
siha
"masseur"
ni
man
ma
cho~
cho'cho'
på'go
"I think they do the same thing"
nai
ayi
i
ha
lasa
hao
på'go
ni
iyo-
-mu
"tension"
iyo-
-mu
"muscle"
ahm
hunggan
nai
guaha na biåhi na
ma
sångan
noh
na
guaha
kalan
guaha
na
kalan
guaha
iyo-
-ña
nai
"powers"
noh
guaha na biåhi na
kalan
ma
sångan
ayu
"and"
ah
si
tåta
-hu
nai
guaha na biåhi na
kalan
ma
sångan
kalan
guaha
dai
ayu
na
bihu
nu
iyo-
-ña
nu
spiritu
nai
"and y'know it's, it's a, it's"
"kind of like"
"um"
"kind of like"
hunggan
kalan
guaha
iyo-
-ñiha
nai
nu
"healing power"
Kalan
guaha
iyo-
-ña
"healing power"
"so"
siña
un
ågang
ayu
spiritu
anggen
anggen
malangu
on
"freely"
lao
nu
ahm
kalan
guaha
nai
iyo-
-ñiha
"powers"
nai
siña
man
man
åmte
ya
siña
ma
na'homlo'
kalan
dångkolo
iyo-
na
"you know"
(nisisåriu)
"yeah"
"oh no"
tåya'
"no they don't have, they don't have a--"
Tåya'
ni
ayi
i
ma
su~
"consult"
na
nu
tåya' ni
ayu
tåya' ni
ayu
ayi
kalan
iyo-
-ñiha
ha'
nu
"aura"
"you know"
ni
ayi
i
iyo-
-ñiha
ha'
nai
ni
kalan
ma
gai
spiritu
"no"
tåya'
ni
ennao
tåya'
ni
"there's no magic"
"there's no voodoo"
"it's just really just a willingness to do a-- to t-- to have, y'know, the power to heal"
ni
ni'
iyo-
-ña
"powers"
ni
iyo-
-ña
"powers"
ni
para u
fan
man
homlo'
"no"
"it's kinda like a job everyday"
"yeah"
ayi
"you know"
ma
ma
a~
atan
i
taotao
ma
li'e'
håfa
ha
nisisita
pues
ma
cho'gue
håfa
ma
cho~
cho'gue
"yeah"
lao
"year round, year round"
na
man
man
a~
åmte
<um>
eskuela
hu'
Hagåtña
"Agana Elementary School"
"and then I transferred to Adelup"
"Adelup used to be an elementary school"
"where the..."
"the governor's office is right now"
"that used to be an elementary school"
"so I went to elementary school"
guihi
pues
<um>
hånao
hu'
para
GW
giya
Mongmong
"the old GW with the quonset hut"
"I went to that school"
"then I finally graduated at JFK"
"the first year that JFK was called JFK"
"'cause before that"
"Tumon High School"
ayu
eståba
pues
<um>
"graduate"
hu'
gi
JFK
pues
<um>
eskuela
hu'
gi
"College"
ha'a
"I"
<um>
hånao
hu'
para
Amerika
<um>
hånao
hu'
para
California
"and I was taking classes here and there"
pues
annai
måtto
hu'
tatte'
"I ki-- I finally"
"finished my, um..."
"here at UOG"
Macho'cho'
hu'
"for Federal Government"
"I was a managerial..."
"contracting officer, I was an--"
"uh, manager"
"I was a contracting officer so I know a little about..."
"paralegal stuff"
åhe'
ti
ha
faisen
hu'
ayi
nobio
-hu
ti
malago'
Åhe'
dai
"yeah"
ti
malago'
u
u
(faisen)
guåhu
hu
faisen
gue'
ilek-
-hu
kao
malago'
yanggen
ta
á
asågua
ilek-
-ña
"no"
"so that's it"
Ai
kana'
<um>
bisinu
nai
sa'
unu
taotao
Aniguak
otro
taotao
Hulåle'
"Guess what!"
"Guess what!"
Si
tåta
-hu
<um>
hånao
guatu
ya
ma
lasa
gi
as
nåna
-hu
ah
<um>
hånao
guatu
ya
para u
ma
lasa
si
tåta
-hu
si
tåta
-hu
<um>
hånao
guatu
ya
para u
ma
lasa
gi as
nåna
-hu
pues
<in>
lasa
gi as
nåna
-hu
"and from there on, it was love!"
"isn't that funny?"
"oh boy, I think they were..."
"in their late..."
"in-- in their-- in their very early twenties maybe? I don't know"
"or, y'know, in their late teens, maybe?"
lao
kana'
<um>
bisinu
nai
i
dos
pues nu
hagas
ha
ripåra
na
ei
sa'
man
la~
lasa
ayu
na
palå'an
yan
nu
"you know"
kalan
ya-
-ña
nai
pues
ha
fa'-
malångu
gue'
ya
<um>
hånao
ya
ma
lasa
<um>
hånao
ya
ma
lasa
pues
"y'know, then they"
"then he proposed to her or whatever and"
<um>
á
asågua
i
dos
si
nåna
-hu
"is"
ah
"nineteen...fifteen and"
si
tåta
-hu
"nineteen-oh-eight"
"I believe"
"or"
nu
"nineteen twenty-one? No-"
Ai
dai
ti
hu
tungo'
maleffa
hu'
"Nineteen twenty-one"
fana'an
si
nåna
-hu
"and my father, I can't remember, honestly it's terrible, I can't remember now what year"
"it's on their graves, but..."
eh
"no"
"no"
ah
oh
hamyo
guaha
mås
nu
yanggen
malago'
un
tungo'
ahm
"we"
"I feel, ooh, this is sort of um-- it's a story"
"but, um"
"when--"
"yeah"
ha'a
nu
ahm
annai
i
annai
i
guaha na biåhi na
guaha
man
måtto
ya
ti
guaha na biåhi na
man
bisita
"or that we think"
man
bisita
lao
ti
man
bisita
un
biåhi
nu
ahm
måtto
ayi
che'lu
para u
boka
talo'åni
nai
ya
nu
ha
hungok
i
kareta
nai
<um>
ka
hu~
hulo'
ilek
-ña
'lani'
"he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat"
yan
guaha
bisita
"when"
annai
pues
ha
nangga
nai
ha
nangga
"y'know"
tåya'
bisita
måtto
lao
ha
hungok
ha'
ha
hungok
ha'
i
kareta
na
måtto
ha
hungok
ha'
"and and to to us that was a sign"
oh
guaha
måtto
bisita
"so that kind of a memory"
"also, um"
ah
i
i
ayu
na
klåsi
n
klåsi
n
"and and we think"
na
na
guaha
siha
ayi
i
man
måtai
yan
man
måtto
man
man
bisita
taigui
na
klåsi
"but"
"in their particular job"
nu
ti
ti
ti
meggai
nu
ahm
ti
meggai
tåya'
nu
ah
tåya'
"particular"
ahm
"favorite story or anything like that"
lao
lao
lao
i
"it"
"only that I-- it... it's um"
"it's kind of, um"
"after thing"
nai
ni
iyi
kalan
nu
mm
in
kalan
guaha
bisita
man
få~
fåtto
ha'
ya
ti
ya
ti
para
u fan
ma
åmte
"it it just"
"that's what we recollect sometimes"
hami
ni
famagu'on
na
"okay, that's one experience, and then, you know, uh"
guaha
ta'lo
mås
lao
lao
"I-"
"I, I can't remember it all right now"
"that's the one thing that I remember"
"very physical"
na
guaha
måtto
kareta
tåya'
"very physical"
tåya'
lao
"other than that"
bula
siha
man
få~
fåtto
ni
ni
ai
guaha na biåhi na
ti
man
makmåta
ham
Ha'a
"yeah"
lao
lao
man
luhan
nai
i
i
"y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible"
guatu
gi
i
suruhåna
sa'
lao
man
"up all night"
man
man
man
man
luhan
ni
famagu'on
-ñiha
"so they come very early sometime"
"the..."
"yeah"
"so"
"but, um"
"that-- that's it, really"
"y'know that that kinda stands out"
"this is the... after-- afterlife or something"
"for uh"
"a little"
memorias
"or"
"yeah"
"that's kinda what you were looking for?"
monhåyan
monhåyan
esta
Okay
dai
ai
pues nu
ahm
ah
"hopefully"
na
man
<in>
ayuda
ni
esudia
estudia
-mu
mm-mm
mm-mm
PRO.EMP[1S]
UNM
Bernadita
Terlaje
but
like
1S.POSS
OBL
IRR.AGR[1S]
PASS
call
Benit
and
person
Ma'ina
PRO[1S]
born
PRO[1S]
and
PASS
raise
PRO[1S]
Ma'ina
but
person
Tamuning
PRO[1S]
now
and
uh
um
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
Regina
UNM
father
1S.POSS
Jesus
Regina
Måfnas
Terlaje
Jesus
Sålas
Terlaje
both of them
all
DET.DEF
two
uh
traditional.healer(m)
and
traditional.healer(f)
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
COMP
ANTIP
PROG
heal.with.medicine
OBL
that
medicine
medicine
for
DET.DEF
children
and
OBL
ANTIP
PROG
massage
if
strained.back
PRO[2S]
or
what
injury
2S.POSS
AGR[PL]
PROG
massage
but
mostly
children
AGR[3S]
PROG
treat.with.medicine
UNM
father
1S.POSS
topical
ANTIP
PROG
rub(ointment).on/in
APPL
medicine
if
there.is
injury
PRO.EMP[3S]
that
PROG
work
3S.POSS
so.then
that
that
only
that
most
OBL
work
3PL.POSS
PROG
ehh
ehh
IRR
AGR.IRR[3PL]
heal
chilren
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
primarily
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
more
uh
um
more
uh
ah
ANTIP
PROG
heal
than
UNM
father
1S.POSS
rare
UNM
father
1S.POSS
LNK
ANTIP
medicine
unless
that
wound
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
uh
um
many
AGR[PL]
PASS
PROG
massage
many
AGR[PL]
PASS
PROG
massage
LCL
if
accident
PRO[2S]
AGR[PL]
PROG
massage
if
uh
strained.back
PRO[2S]
that
like
what
uh
LNK
PASS
hard
AGR[3S]
(touch)
AGR[3S]
PROG
massage
PRO[2S]
for
AGR.IRR[3S]
CAUS
get.away
possession
2S.POSS
OBL
tension
if
ah
if
uh
if
ah
if
AGR[2S]
sprain
PRO[2S]
y'know
if
like
sprain
DET.DEF
lower.leg
1S.POSS
ah
that
PROG
massage
PRO[2S]
now
that
that
FUT
IRR.AGR[3S]
FUT
IRR.AGR[3S]
ah
primarily
OBL
DET.DEF
muscle
ah
AGR[3S]
CAUS
AGR[3S]
CAUS
PROG
move.away
DET.DEF
tension
LCL
muscle
y'know
so
that
so
ehh
like
almost
every
day
there.is
people
LCL
PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]
AGR[PL]
AGR[PL]
PASS
come
COMP
IRR
AGR.IRR[3PL]
PASS
heal
when
children
almost
almost
that
DET.DEF
most
AGR[PL]
sick
OBL
ah
that
phlegm
COMP
NEG
can
already
OBL
PASS
make
go.out
OBL
DET.DEF
medicine
DET.DEF
doctor
AGR[3S]
PROG
put
medicine
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
make
come.out
DET.DEF
phlegm
LCL
DET.DEF
child
so
many
CAUS
IRR.AGR[3PL]
well
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
much
CAUS
IRR.AGR[3S]
well
so
So
one
LNK
sibling
1S.POSS
but
already
dead
ANTIP
PROG
cook
medicine
but
ah
and
AGR[PL]
PROG
cook
medicine
mother
1S.POSS
and
father
1S.POSS
y'know
but
AGR[3PL]
PROG
give.to.someone
there
OBL
leaf
entirely
PL
leaf
OBL
medicine
LNK
leaf
AGR[3S]
PROG
cook
so
one
LNK
sibling
1S.POSS
LNK
AGR[PL]
PROG
AGR[PL]
PROG
cook
used.to.be
y'know
but
AGR[3S]
NEG
ah
NEG
AGR[3S]
get
ah
when
only
LNK
there.is
want
medicine
and
when
just
when
when
just
LNK
leave
INDEF
get
medicine
that
LNK
INDEF
PROG
cook
but
NEG
each
day
AGR[3S]
PROG
do
that
but
already
not.here
that
LNK
sibling
but
PRO.EMP[3S]
just
PRO.EMP[3S]
just
PRO.EMP[3S]
just
may.have
may.have
PRO.EMP[3S]
may.have
OBL
AGR[nPL]
follow
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
--
more
no
NEG
PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]
that
DET.DEF
rest.of.us
NEG
PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]
AGR[2PL]
follow
NEG
AGR[3S]
CAUS
NEG
AGR[3S]
CAUS
NEG
AGR[3S]
CAUS
join
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
and
father
1S.POSS
need
LNK
AGR[2S]
INTENS
dedicated
that
that
LNK
type
LNK
work
y'know
need
LNK
AGR[2S]
AGR[2S]
there.is
LCL
heart
1S.POSS
LNK
for
AGR[2S]
do
that
every
day
because
AGR[3PL]
PROG
trust
PRO[2S]
and also
need
LNK
AGR[2S]
believe
PRO.EMP[2S]
AGR[2S]
believe
y'know
so
PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]
y'know
OBL
DET.DEF
OBL
DET.DEF
children
mother
1S.POSS
and
father
1S.POSS
six
six
so
OBL
PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]
NEG
NEG
AGR[3S]
NEG
AGR[3S]
NEG
AGR[3S]
force
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
an
father
1S.POSS
IRR
IRR.AGR[2PL]
follow
PRO[3PL]
yeah
NEG
um
AGR[3S]
see
LNK
NEG
AGR[PL]
NEG
AGR[PL]
INTENS
ah
NEG
AGR[PL]
INTENS
interested
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
AGR[3S]
see
just
AGR[3S]
see
just
no
no
there.isn't
LNK
there.isn't
LNK
AGR[3S]
ask
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
NEG
NEG
prefer
3PL.POSS
LNK
IRR.AGR[1PL.EXCL]
IRR.AGR[PL]
in.school
because
LNK
ah
DET.DEF
visitor
y'know
disturbance
LCL
inside
house
all
time
there.is
there.is
people
LCL
house
there.isn't
possession
2S.POSS
privacy
LNK
there.isn't
time
2S.POSS
for
IRR.AGR[2S]
IRR.ANTIP
study
because
OBL
AGR[2S]
PROG
wait
LNK
for
IRR.AGR[3PL]
go
for
IRR.AGR[3PL]
go
to
house
3PL.POSS
so
that
COMP
AGR[2S]
IRR.ANTIP
dinner
so
that
COMP
AGR[2S]
IRR.ANTIP
study
so
NEG
just
see
just
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
if
father
1S.POSS
COMP
NEG
AGR[PL]
interested
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
OBL
that
LNK
type
LNK
work
yeah
it just, it just
it just felt, that's their
that's their profession, that's their choosing
NEG
AGR[3S]
force
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
no
housewife
only
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
UNM
father
1S.POSS
COMP
gardener for the governor's house
he was a gardener there
but
ah
uh
ah
that
only
work
3PL.POSS
y'know, just ah, farming?
UNM
father
1S.POSS
farming
only
y'know
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
housewife and ahm care-- caregiver
Ma'ina
further
Ma'ina
possession
1PL.EXCL.POSS
village
DET.DEF
side
LNK
father
1S.POSS
that
LNK
place
but
in fact
uh
ah
DET.DEF
side
LNK
mother
1S.POSS
more
LNK
AGR[PL]
LNK
AGR[PL]
ah
that I grew up with
my cousins from my mother's side
so.then
um
Ma'ina
Ma'ina
UNM
father
1S.POSS
originally
person
Aniguak
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
yeah
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
originally
person
Hulåle'
so
UNM
father
1S.POSS
COMP
AGR[PL]
have
land
LCL
up
LCL
Nimitz Hill
AGR[PL]
PASS
give
land
COMP
DET.DEF
COMP
possession
3S.POSS
uh
forefathers
and
uh
ah
AGR[PL]
farm
LCL
up
that
COMP
AGR[PL]
go
up
Ma'ina
to
IRR.AGR[3PL]
farm
but
all
time
AGR[PL]
PROG
go
to
DET.DEF
sea
AGR[PL]
AGR[PL]
fish
also
but
they were originally from Hagåtña and Anigua'
yeah
so.then
um
small
LNK
village
DET.DEF
Ma'ina
and
like
ah
so
DET.DEF
side
LNK
mother
1S.POSS
LNK
LNK
more
AGR[1S]
know
family
1S.POSS
DET.DEF
side
father
1S.POSS
AGR[1S]
know
just
some
but
NED
very
much
DET.DEF
father
LNK
DET.DEF
family
LNK
Teresa
knowledge
1S.POSS
LNK
Terlaje
people
Yo'ña
PRO[3PL]
From the time I was born, in fact I had to learn, I had to learn English
LCL
school
I had to learn English
LCL
umm
Hagåtña
no
friend
AGR[1S]
like
like
1S.POSS
and
uh
AGR[1S]
PROG
take
UNM
father
1S.POSS
if
there.is
homework
AGR[1S]
PROG
take
UNM
father
1S.POSS
now
and
sit
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
and
AGR[1S]
teach
and
AGR[1S]
teach
PRO[3S]
English
UNM
father
1S.POSS
yeah
yeah
so
uh
I-- I-- no I-- it--
NEG
AGR[1S]
CAUS
difficult
uh
INF
know
English
INF
know
you know
I guess
OBL
ah
I was very ah
but
yes
language
CHamoru
only
my original tongue
nineteen forty-seven
yeah
PRO.EMP[1S]
PRO.EMP[1S]
most
old
OBL
INF
alive
the very first born was a female
but
died
"so then I had two brothers before me
then
PRO.EMP[1S]
then
girl
then
boy
then
girl
six survivors
yeah
yeah
oh
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
family
LNK
tea
and
family
Yeah
like
DET.DEF
drink
family
and
family
LNK
wrong
yep
family
LNK
wrong
and
family
LNK
tea
UNM
father
1S.POSS
friend
UNM
father
1S.POSS
because
not
not
not
you know I never did
was clear
what
like
possession
3S.POSS
OBL
family name
UNM
father
1S.POSS
but
named
family
LNK
Enna'
but
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
family
LNK
tea
Lizama-Måfnas
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
and
DET.DEF
Lizama
DET.DEF
Lizama
family
LNK
wrong
named
that
DET.DEF
Måfnas
family
LNK
tea
yeah
yeah
many
relatives
1S.POSS
uh
LNK
tea
family
LNK
tea
LCL
Barigåda
yeah
DET.DEF
Måfnas
y'know
DET.DEF
Måfnas
many
many
many
OBL
Barigåda
Måfnas
DET.DEF
Lizåma
AGR[PL]
spread out
all
yeah
that
that
that
knowledge
1S.POSS
but
UNM
father
1S.POSS
friend
NEG
AGR[1S]
know
who
uh
family
LNK
name
3PL.POSS
okay
who
PL
AGR[PL]
PROG
sick
uh
many
time
LNK
children
many
time
because
PASS
my mother was known
to be, ahm, herbal
so
uh
ah
DET.DEF
children
AGR[PL]
PASS
arrive
that
that
DET.DEF
colic
so
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
y'know
if
if
very
sick
DET.DEF
child
ask.for
presently
already
AGR[2S]
take
to
DET.DEF
doctor
already
AGR[2S]
try
doctor
ah
try
uh
you know
sometimes (lit: there.are.LNK.times.COMP)
ah
just to get a background
y'know
AGR[3S]
ask
YNQ
already
went
to
DET.DEF
doctor
and
NEG
PASS
help
DET.DEF
child
so
that
LNK
she'll get into her business
so.then
ahm
she would make
herbal
then
AGR[3S]
PROG
add
like
ah
something to, ahm...
to... to make the child cough
TAG
so then
ah
do
ehh
DET.DEF
hand
3S.POSS
into
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
scrape out whatever's choking that child
and
AGR[3S]
CAUS
vomit
so
many
many
children
AGR[PL]
PROG
come
because
that was her reputation
COMP
herbal medicine
PROG
work
3S.POSS
UNM
father
1S.POSS
and
AGR[PL]
PROG
massage
many
like
3S.POSS
AGR[PL]
PASS
massage
sometimes
two
hours
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
that
AGR[PL]
PROG
massage
that
PRO.EMP[3PL]
DET.DEF
AGR[PL]
DET.DEF
want
AGR[PL]
PASS
massage
for
tension
for
um
there.is
that
AGR[PL]
accident
and
AGR[PL]
you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck
so
for
that
PL
AGR[PL]
accident
that
PL
eh
eh
AGR[PL]
want
if
AGR[PL]
massage
for to relieve their tension and ah
there.is
that
PASS
come
just
friend
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
PASS
massage
that
old
sometimes
maybe
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
massaged
EMP
so
uh
so
uh
but
but
more.than
more.than
herbal
UNM
COMP
COMP
children
OBL
AGR[PL]
PROG
come
LCL
house
1PL.EXCL.POSS
UNM
father
1S.POSS
that
PRO.EMP[3PL]
DET.DEF
sometimes
swollen
y'know
sometimes
have.swelling
COMP
NEG
want
INF
go
or or whatever
and
OBL
there are times
UNM
father
1S.POSS
COMP
AGR[3S]
take
EMP
DET.DEF
spit
3S.POSS
and
AGR[3S]
rub.in
APPL
to see what happens
funny
friend
this
UNM.OBL
father
1S.POSS
but
UNM
father
1S.POSS
ANTIP
PROG
pulverize
whatever
pulverize
whatever
uh
herbal
AGR[3S]
PROG
pulverize
and
sometimes
PROG
smear
and usually it's um
you know just
bruise
or something
y'know
some unknown
unknown illness that crops up on the skin
then
AGR[3S]
PROG
rub.in
now
that
DET.DEF
medicine
so
if
you know
that- that's it
to just see if it works
NEG
ANTIP
ask.for
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
money
NEG
ANTIP
ask.for
but
from
DET.DEF
happiness
DET.DEF
yeah
happiness
OBL
happiness
3PL.POSS
EMP
AGR[PL]
PROG
give
money
there.isn't
LNK
AGR[3S]
refuse
it
no
no
NEG
AGR[3PL]
PROG
bring
APPL
food
that
EMP
DET.DEF
that
ah
um
ah
that
EMP
if
AGR[3PL]
give
payment
but
NEG
much
y'know
NEG
big
whatevers whatever they
whatever they can give her
yeah
just out of the...
you know
kindness of their heart
AGR[3PL]
give
NEG
AGR[1S]
know
friend
that
ah
ah
what
DET.DEF
question
for
UNM
priest
NEG
AGR[1S]
oh
NEG
AGR[1S]
that was their lifestyle
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
y'know
PASS
teach
UNM.OBL
mother
3S.POSS
if
father
3S.POSS
so she kinda grew up with her own family being suruhanus
UNM
father
1S.POSS
was just his own thing
but
um
that that's
they- they just practiced it
since they were younger
from their own household
yes
AGR[1S]
believe
yes
AGR[1S]
believe
COMP
ANTIP
see
1S.POSS
many
OBL
AGR[PL]
PASS
help
many
AGR[PL]
PASS
help
AGR[1S]
believe
but
NEG
important
EMP
PRO[1S]
y'know
NEG
NEG
NEG
that
COMP
for
FUT
run.after
for
FUT
run.after
oh
PASS.CAUS
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
PASS.CAUS
PASS.CAUS
say
APPL
EMP
DET.DEF
people
PASS.CAUS
say
APPL
EMP
if
who?
OBL
OBL
ill
child
3S.POSS
sometimes
many
sometimes
same family
like
two or three times
AGR[PL]
PROG
come
so it's a word of mouth among the locals
li(ke) like I said
y'know
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
AGR[3PL]
know
more
for
DET.DEF
medicine
3S.POSS
UNM
father
1S.POSS
AGR[3PL]
know
more
for
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
PROG
action
3S.POSS
that
DET.DEF
like
uh
PRO.EMP[3S]
EMP
responsible.for
that
knowledge
3S.POSS
so word of mouth
for
PRO.EMP[1S]
y'know
when
when
when
um
I don't wanna be negative
but
bothersome
that
AGR[3S]
bother
PRO[1S]
um
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
there.is
PRO.EMP[3PL]
people
LCL
house
1PL.EXCL.POSS
because
sometimes
NEG
AGR[PL]
PROG
awake
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
already
there.is
AGR[PL]
PROG
arrive
people
and
sometimes
late at night
COMP
AGR[PL]
PROG
leave
so ah freedom around my house
sometimes
like
restricted
because
there.is
visitor
so it never- it never
it never
um
NEG
NEG
said
it never said, 'oh, I want to do that'
NEG
NEG
joy
NEG
jump for joy
1S.POSS
y'know
for that so- because I did consider it kind of like an invasion of privacy for one
and um it's not that I didn't believe it because it-- I s-- I did see the results very very, very very positive results
and
many
all
time
AGR[PL]
AGR[PL]
AGR[PL]
AGR[3PL]
appeciate
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
PROG
action
3S.POSS
but
uh
um
more
COMP
PASS
change
PASS
change
DET.DEF
time
there
TAG
I'm-- I mean I wasn't a homebound, I wasn't destined to be a homebound
I was out
learning and y'know going beyond that
frame of household
y'know
so
um
NEG
NEG
NEG
important
NEG
NEG
NEG
AGR[3nPL]
enter
LCL
heart
1S.POSS
and like I said
necessary
COMP
AGR[2S]
believe
and
necessary
COMP
AGR[2S]
dedicate
PRO[2S]
LCL
that
LNK
type
LNK
work
big
LNK
dedication
yeah
yeah
feel
EMP
NOM
feel
3PL.POSS
we were up, y'know, we were-- we were
going outside of the framework of that
that
um
profession
I put water, I put eye-droplets in my eye and I'm now I'm tearing
No, I'll just use this little dry...
end
It...
when I put eye-droplets in for the retinas
then it creates
tears
it takes away the dryness
so... okay, but I will have a drink
clear
for
PRO.EMP[2S]
AGR[2S]
understand
AGR[2S]
understand
uh
Am I echoing?
where?
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(m)
and
traditional.healer(f)
No
friend
no
no
like
doctor
EMP
y'know
there.is
one
uh
LNK
lady
UNM
Rosalia Mateas
named
AGR[3PL]
include
that
LNK
lady
LCL
FestPAC
ah
FestPAC
FestPAC
She was the one
COMP
almost
She was the one that wanted to learn from my mother
And she'll always give my mother credit
so.then
PRO.EMP[3S]
uh
LNK
lady
OBL
ANTIP
PROG
heal
named
LNK
time
and I think
like
AGR[PL]
ANTIP
teach
OBL
medicine
TAG
so
that
LNK
that
EMP
LNK
lady
that
knowledge
1S.POSS
OBL
AGR[3S]
follow
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
like
and
like I said
all
DET.DEF
time
AGR[3S]
PROG
give
credit
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
LNK
NOM
teach
y'know
because
many
children
3S.POSS
DET.DEF
lady
and
uh
frequently
AGR[PL]
ill
when they were kids
TAG
So she really believed in it
and
She wanted to be a suruhåna and so I-- she became a suruhåna. So I know of her, as one
that learned from my mother
UNM
mm
UNM
Rosalia
yeah
Fejeran
And she married a Mateo
Fejeran
I think
person
living.in
person
Tamuning
EMP
like
secret
LNK
LNK
knowledge
3PL.POSS
in their trade?
as-- as
traditional.healer(m)
and
traditional.healer(f)
nothing
no, they
there.isn't
secret
if
there.isn't
uh
no, no
there.isn't
voodoo magic
nothing
no"
UNM
father
1S.POSS
y'know
sometimes
uh
uh
ah
AGR[3S]
surprise
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
OBL
that
DET.DEF
if
ANTIP
heal
y'know
sometimes
sometimes
uh
NEG
like
unbelievable
what?
action
3S.POSS
or whatever, you know
so
it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny
but
there.is
LNK
time
COMP
surprising
what?
OBL
thing
3S.POSS
result
but that's about it, just--
but no secrets
I-- because
many
already
AGR[PL]
old
and
AGR[PL]
die
and
uh
uh
NEG
many
OBL
AGR[PL]
AGR[PL]
want
it could be
it could be phasing out
and um
um
because
DET.DEF
others
because
many
traditional.healer(f)
LCL
time
LNK
mother
1S.POSS
quite.many
EMP
PRO.EMP[3PL]
Yigo
and
maybe
Barigåda
and
but
maybe
friend
all
AGR[PL]
die
that
PRO.EMP[3PL]
OBL
PL
old
including my own parents, of course
AGR[PL]
leave
already
AGR[PL]
die
and
NEG
AGR[1S]
hear
friend
there.isn't
NOM
hear
INTENS
1S.POSS
OBL
OBL
AGR[nPL]
want
that
from
DET.DEF
PL
youth
yeah
yeah
UNM
Rosalia
may
more
AGR[nPL]
know
that
LNK
question
well
they--
they want to--
they they they want to try their very very best
if
if
NEG
PASS
get.better
DET.DEF
child
LCL
the.first
time
say
3S.POSS
mother
1S.POSS
bring
again
here
tomorrow
until
AGR[3S]
see
LNK
extremely
nothing
EMP
IRR
IRR.ARG[3S]
do
so it's, uh, determination
OBL
for
IRR.ARG[3S]
PASS
heal
DET.DEF
child
that's, that's the connection there
that
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
modern
LNK
doctor
and
uh
um
never
COMP
mother
1S.POSS
COMP
AGR[3S]
turn.down
PRO[3S]
they never turn anybody away
so that's, that's another thing they--
NEG
can
OBL
NEG
NEG
all
time
she'll just give it a try
and
um
so its ah its dedication
that
DET.DEF
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
heal
DET.DEF
people
OBL
PL
same
NEG
AGR[1S]
NEG
AGR[1S]
know
but
like
if
said
1PL.INCL.POSS
COMP
if
like
if
PROG
severe
child
AGR[nPL]
say
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
OBL
sometimes
AGR[3S]
ask
already
AGR[2S]
take
to
DET.DEF
doctor
and
OBL
nothing
OBL
NEG
PASS
help
said
3S.POSS
yes
already
dear
elder
1S.POSS
AGR[1S]
try
AGR[1S]
try
already
and
NEG
PASS
help
so
said
3S.POSS
okay
come
and
AGR[1PL.INCL]
try
so, so
there.were.times.that
AGR[3S]
take
EMP
OBL
there.isn't
question
but
there.were.times.that
AGR[3S]
ask
YNQ
already
OBL
AGR[2S]
take
to
DET.DEF
it depends
I-- I don't really know, you know, their
what
their
main ah main steps
but
its all kinds
NEG
Oh, I'm sure maybe yeah, I'm sure, maybe there is an example of that
I mean it's not always a guarantee
y'know
No
yes
yes
COMP
that
for
um
FUT
FUT
AGR[1PL.EXCL]
bring
APPL
PRO[3S]
that
DET.DEF
medicine
mostly my brothers did that for her
because
AGR[PL]
PROG
go
go.out
LCL
jungle
or
for
DET.DEF
tip***
LNK
ocean
for
IRR.AGR[3PL]
get
this.(demonstrative)
PRO.EMP[3PL]
LNK
kind
LNK
medicine
and... and really that's about it
if
and
sometimes
if
AGR[3S]
need
COMP
for
IRR.AGR[3PL]
pulverize
sometimes
IRR.AGR[3PL]
ask
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
sometimes
AGR[3S]
ask
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
for
FUT
AGR[2PL]
pulverize
but
mostly
PRO.EMP[3PL]
EMP
more
INF
PROG
do
that
UNM
father
1S.POSS
PRO.EMP[3S]
EMP
AGR[nPL]
PROG
do
DET.DEF
medicine
3S.POSS
AGR[3S]
PROG
pulverize
DET.DEF
medicine
3S.POSS
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
like
if
AGR[3S]
need
OBL
medicine
like
ANTIP
ask
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
sometimes
AGR[3S]
ask
DET.DEF
patient
DET.DEF
family
LNK
DET.DEF
patient
IRR.AGR[3S]
go
and
AGR[3PL]
get
medicine
PL
and
or
sometimes
AGR[3S]
ask
that
DET.DEF
sibling
1S.POSS
but
mostly
DET.DEF
family
AGR[3S]
PROG
ask
go
son
1S.POSS
and
AGR[2S]
get
that
DET.DEF
medicine
LCL
DET.DEF
like.that
and
like.that
if
AGR[3S]
know
DET.DEF
person
if
NEG
AGR[3S]
know
ah
then
ah
one
LNK
sibling
No, nothing special
what?
LNK
type
LNK
patient
not really, no
i-- its just kind of a routine
not really
no
that
EMP
DET.DEF
extremely
sick
OBL
sometimes
DET.DEF
child
barely
AGR[nPL]
PROG
breathe
possession
3S.POSS
colic
that
most
difficult
difficult
because
need
COMP
for
IRR.AGR[3S]
IRR.AGR[3S]
scrape
out
that
finger
3S.POSS
y'know
heavy
that
and
AGR[3S]
CAUS
vomit
DET.DEF
child
AGR[3S]
CAUS
vomit
take it out
I don't know
no I don't-- I don't understand
mm
I don't know if I can give an opinion on that
NEG
NEG
NEG
well
NEG
AGR[1S]
PROG
search
word
I mean I don't know
whether
there.is
whether
there.is
what?
YNQ
there.is
speech
AGR[1S]
hear
for
for
uh
traditional.healer(f)
oh
YNQ
there.is
language
3PL.POSS
which
NEG
AGR[1S]
PROG
hear
today
No
I don't have a-- I don't have a-- I can't answer that question 'cause I'm not in contact with suruhåna
there.isn't
is
probably
ANTIP
PROG
massage
LNK
side
Guam, I
NEG
NEG
NEG
many
are
maybe
traditional.healer(f)
OBL
that
DET.DEF
ANTIP
PROG
massage
that I know of, yeah
y-- for my mother, for my mother only
DET.DEF
tension
PL
if
if
limp
PRO[2S]
if
like
if you have a sprain
um, she'll--
she'll ma-- massage
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
muscle around it
and ah
or
DET.DEF
tension
y'know
much
that
DET.DEF
PL
tension
over.here
she'll... just regular massaging like any other masseur
she'll...
massage like that
and so
that
PRO.EMP[3PL]
masseur
OBL
AGR[PL]
PASS
PROG
work
today
I think they do the same thing
y'know
that
DET.DEF
AGR[3S]
massage
PRO[2S]
today
OBL
possession
2S.POSS
tension
possession
2S.POSS
muscle
ahm
yes
COMP
there.were.times.that
AGR[3PL]
say
TAG
OBL
there.is
like
there.is
OBL
like
there.is
possession
3S.POSS
OBL
powers
TAG
sometimes
like
AGR[3PL]
say
that
and
ah
UNM
father
1S.POSS
y'know
sometimes
like
PASS
say
like
there.is
friend
that
LNK
old
OBL
possession
3S.POSS
OBL
spirit
y'know
and y'know it's, it's a, it's
kind of like
um
kind of like
yes
like
there.is
possession
3PL.POSS
OBL
uh
healing power
like
there.is
possession
3S.POSS
healing power
so
can
AGR[2S]
summon
that
spirit
when
when
sick
-able
freely
but
uh
um
like
there.is
OBL
possession
3S.POSS
powers
COMP
can
AGR[PL]
ANTIP
treat
and
can
AGR[3PL]
heal
like
big
possession
COMP
you know
necessry
yeah
oh no
there.isn't
no they don't have, they don't have a--
there.isn't
COMP
that
DET.DEF
AGR[3PL]
PROG
consult
uh
uh
none.at.all
that
none.at.all
that
that
like
possession
3PL.POSS
EMP
uh
aura
you know
COMP
that
DET.DEF
possession
3PL.POSS
EMP
y'know
uh
like
AGR[3PL]
possess
spirit
no
there.isn't
that
that
there.isn't
that
there's no magic
there's no voodoo
it's just really just a willingness to do a-- to t-- to have, y'know, the power to heal
OBL
OBL
possession
3S.POSS
powers
that
possession
3S.POSS
powers
that
IRR.AGR[3S]
INF
ANTIP
heal
no
it's kinda like a job everyday
yeah
that
you know
AGR[3PL]
AGR[3PL]
PROG
look.at
DET.DEF
person
AGR[3PL]
see
what
AGR[3S]
need
then
AGR[3PL]
do
what
AGR[3PL]
PROG
do
yeah
but
year round, year round
COMP
AGR[PL]
ANTIP
PROG
heal
AGR[nPL]
go.to.school
PRO[1S]
Hagåtña
Agana Elementary School
and then I transferred to Adelup
Adelup used to be an elementary school
where the...
the governor's office is right now
that used to be an elementary school
so I went to elementary school
there
so
AGR[nPL]
go
PRO[1S]
to
GW
LCL
hollow.sounding
the old GW with the quonset hut
I went to that school
then I finally graduated at JFK
the first year that JFK was called JFK
'cause before that
Tumon High School
that
formerly.was
so
AGR[nPL]
graduate
PRO[1S]
LCL
JFK
then
AGR[nPL]
go.to.school
PRO[1S]
LCL
College
yeah
I
AGR[nPL]
go
PRO[1S]
to
America
AGR[nPL]
go
PRO[1S]
to
California
so
when
come
PRO[1S]
back
I ki-- I finally
finished my, um...
here at UOG
worked
PRO[1S]
for Federal Government
I was a managerial...
contracting officer, I was an--
uh, manager
I was a contracting officer so I know a little about...
paralegal stuff
no
NEG
AGR[3S]
ask
PRO[1S]
that
boyfriend
1S.POSS
NEG
want
no
friend
yeah
NEG
want
IRR.AGR[3S]
IRR.AGR[3S]
ask
PRO.EMP[1S]
AGR[1S]
ask
PRO[3S]
say
1S.POSS
YNQ
want
if
AGR[1PL.INCL]
RECIP
marry
say
3S.POSS
no
so that's it
oh
almost
AGR[nPL]
neighbor
y'know
because
one
person
Aniguak
other
person
Hulåle'
Guess what!
Guess what!
UNM
father
1S.POSS
AGR[nPL]
go
there
and
PASS
massage
LCL
OBL
mother
1S.POSS
ah
AGR[nPL]
go
there
and.then
IRR.AGR[3S]
PASS
massage
UNM
father
1S.POSS
UNM
father
1S.POSS
AGR[nPL]
go
there
and
IRR.AGR[3S]
PASS
massage
UNM.OBL
mother
1S.POSS
so
PASS
masage
UNM.OBL
mother
1S.POSS
and from there on, it was love!
isn't that funny?
oh boy, I think they were...
in their late...
in-- in their-- in their very early twenties maybe? I don't know
or, y'know, in their late teens, maybe?
but
almost
AGR[nPL]
neighbor
ENCL***
DET.DEF
two
so.then
ago
AGR[3S]
notice
COMP
***
because
ANTIP
PROG
massage
that
LNK
lady
and
like
you know
like
like
3S.POSS
y'know
so
AGR[3S]
pretend.to
sick
PRO[3S]
and
AGR[nPL]
go
and.then
PASS
massage
AGR[nPL]
go
and
PASS
massage
so
y'know, then they
then he proposed to her or whatever and
AGR[nPL]
RECIP
marry
DET.DEF
two
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
is
ah
nineteen...fifteen and
UNM
father
1S.POSS
nineteen-oh-eight
I believe
or
uh
nineteen twenty-one? No-
oh
dear
NEG
AGR[1S]
know
forget
PRO[1S]
Nineteen twenty-one
maybe
UNM
mother
1S.POSS
and my father, I can't remember, honestly it's terrible, I can't remember now what year
it's on their graves, but...
eh
no
no
ah
oh
PRO.EMP[2PL]
there.is
more
COMP
if
want
AGR[2S]
know
um
we
I feel, ooh, this is sort of um-- it's a story
but, um
when--
yeah
yeah
so
um
when
DET.DEF
when
DET.DEF
sometimes
there.is
AGR[PL]
come
and
NEG
sometimes
AGR[PL]
visit
or that we think
AGR[PL]
visit
but
NEG
AGR[PL]
visit
AGR[2S]
time
uh
um
come
that
sibling
IRR.AGR[3S]
eat
lunch
y'know
and
uh
AGR[3S]
hear
DET.DEF
car
y'know
AGR[nPL]
kept***
PROG
get.up
say
3S.POSS
shit
he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat
and
there.is
visitor
when
when
so
AGR[3S]
wait
y'know
AGR[3S]
wait
y'know
there.isn't
visitor
arrive
but
AGR[3S]
hear
EMP
AGR[3S]
hear
EMP
DET.DEF
car
OBL
arrive
AGR[3S]
hear
EMP
and and to to us that was a sign
oh
there.is
arrive
visitor
so that kind of a memory
also, um
ah
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
that
LNK
type
LNK
type
LNK
and and we think
COMP
COMP
there.is
PRO.EMP[3PL]
that
DET.DEF
AGR[PL]
die
and
AGR[PL]
come
AGR[PL]
ANTIP
visit
like.that
LNK
kind
but
in their particular job
uh
NEG
NEG
NEG
many
OBL
um
NEG
many
there.isn't
OBL
ah
there.isn't
particular
um
favorite story or anything like that
but
but
but
DET.DEF
it
only that I-- it... it's um
it's kind of, um
after thing
OBL
OBL
that
like
OBL
mm
AGR[1PL.EXCL]
like
there.is
visitor
AGR[PL]
PROG
come
EMP
and
NEG
and
NEG
for
IRR.ANTIP.AGR[3S]
PASS
heal
it it just
that's what we recollect sometimes
PRO.EMP[1PL.EXCL]
that
children
COMP
okay, that's one experience, and then, you know, uh
there.is
again
more
but
but
I-
I, I can't remember it all right now
that's the one thing that I remember
very physical
COMP
there.is
come
care
nothing
very physical
nothing
but
other than that
many
PRO.EMP[3PL]
AGR[PL]
PROG
come
OBL
OBL
oh
there.were.times.that
NEG
AGR[PL]
awake
PRO[1PL.EXCL]
yeah
yeah
but
but
AGR[PL]
panicked
COMP
DET.DEF
DET.DEF
y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible
there
LCL
DET.DEF
traditional.healer(f)
because
but
AGR[PL]
up all night
AGR[PL]
AGR[PL]
AGR[PL]
AGR[PL]
panicked
OBL
children
3PL.POSS
so they come very early sometime
the...
yeah
so
but, um
that-- that's it, really
y'know that that kinda stands out
this is the... after-- afterlife or something
for uh
a little
remembrance
or
yeah
that's kinda what you were looking for?
finished
done
already
okay
friend
ay
so.then
ah
ah
hopefully
COMP
AGR[PL]
NOM
help
OBL
study
study
2S.POSS
Good
kay, begin? You are ready?
okay
ah
okay
(laughing)
I apologize
kay, I will introduce myself again
I am Fu'una Sanz, I am a CHamoru teacher at PC Lujan
ah, I am 27 years old and I am from Yona
My mother's family (name) is Listo
and my father's is from the Talo' family in Sinajana
okay, and ah you, ma'am, can you introduce yourself
Do, do you have siblings?
Oh, but but there were just two, just two of you?
Oh, more than just you?
How many children all together?
six
you were not interested?
but
But did did they ask you whether you wanted to know about this?
yes
yes
oh
so did they have another occupation or was that the only thing they did
ohh, okay
and you were living in Ma'ina
that is your mom's or dad's side?
where was your mom from
so then they were close close by
mhmm
okay
ah
so did you did you always speak CHamoru?
at school?
mhmm
Was it difficult?
and you would teach my (sic) dad?
like school also
When ah, if doesn't bother you, when were you born?
nineteen forty-seven
Are you the oldest?
oh
okay
ahh
kay
I am reading the question here
Do you know what your family name or what they were known most for?
Tea? Like the drink?
Ha! The Wrong family?
laughing
Enna'?
Tea family and Wrong family
Wow, I have never heard of the Tea and the Wrong family
yes
ahh
okay I already asked you
okay
ah okay
back to the native healers, who would visit the native healers, what types of people?
What were the reasons they would visit?
mmhm
women?
oh first
wow
[laughing]
[laughing]
uhm so how would they be paid?
so what type
what-- like-- did they give food or
(whatever) they could pay
mmhm
Okay so when would the people go to the priest and when would they go to the suruhana?
so the priest
yes
kay
ah
how did you know about the medicine or the activities of a suruhåna?
Do-- Do you beleive in their medicine?
yes
mmh
ah how did they know about the activities of a suruhåna
many were sick
ah so then, why was is that they did not want
you or your siblings to be a part of the native healing?
and
yes, yes
yes
your siblings also felt the same?
yes
ahm
okay wait
okay is is there
Kay ready ma'am? Yes?
ah is there knowledge or lessons that you want to know because of its benefits?
Are there things you want to know now?
[laughing] nothing?
Kay so then, do you visit the native healers when you are sick or the--
no
Do you know other native healers?
mmhm
yes
She is a Guahan native?
ah okay are there
ah
wait
Was there a part of healing that they did not say in front of you [and your siblings]?
Like a secret? Do-
mmhm
Yes, it says here, "what parts were kept secret from?"
Yes, are
yes
You don't know any?
because they did not tell you right?
Kay, now a days, what may the native healers' parts be?
In the community, in the family, et cetera?
Would would would it be possible to survive in upcoming times?
Can it just continue to survive you know the healing ways?
from the youth
ah, are there similarities between the native healers and doctors?
were similar
okay nai okay then, the sick people, when would they go to the doctor and when they would go to the native healer? Do you kn--
so then those who were sick did they go to the doctor first then go visit the native healer?
Were there experiences where they couldn't heal the person?
and then would say, "okay go to the doctor because I cannot help you."?
Were there
Okay so then
When you were a child, did you help your mom or dad?
no
mm hm
you were helping?
ah
Do you know what they were doing before the people came over, before a person would come over?
None, no types for them to prepare
no
ah
kay
Is says here do you massage but you said no right?
Kay, do you know who is the most difficult to heal?
What type of wound, injury or person yeah?
Do you know what type of wound, d-- uh wound that was difficult to heal?
ah
What are your thoughts on the medicine and healers from outside?
Uh, kay, in English, "what are your thoughts of the medicine and doctors who aren't from here?"
kay
its okay
ah are there words that you don't hear today?
like wo-- suruhåna-type-words or suruhånu-type-words
words
mmhm typ-- types of talk
mmhm
that you don't hear today
mmhm
Do you know ah
types of talk for just the massaging side?
mmhm
Are are all massaging the same?
okay, let me--
Are there spirit names that you knew from your parents?
spirit
like spirit, spirit
like that
they have a friend
yes
Did did did they sometimes say that they spoke to spirits or ancestors?
Did did they say that they could see?
Kay, w-- was there uh... a time or year
that they would work uh
like were there certain times in the year that-- that they would do
special activities
ah
kay maybe that
that is all the question
yes
uh
[laughing]
okay uh, this is only about you now or because I just want to ask you so then uh
you were born in 1947, so where did you attend school?
yes
here
GCC or
University
oh
So then where did you work?
What type of work?
ohh
and married
[laughing]
Do you have do you have children?
[laughing]
So then your mom and dad, do you know how they met?
ohh
So then just because
He massaged your mom?
It was your mom [who did it]?
yes
[laughing]
Do you know how old were they?
[laughing]
[laughing]
What year were your mom and dad born?
wow
ah sorry
do any of you have questions?
again, again, yeah
but he heard a car?
they came at whatever time or
ohh
they are all done
yes yes
mm mm
mm-mm
I am Bernadita Terlaje bu I prefer they call me Bennet
and I am from Ma'ina
I was born and raised in Ma'ina
but today I am from Tamuning
and ahm, my mother is Regina
my father is Jesus
Regina Måfnas Terlaje
Jesus Salas Terlaje, both of them
both of them were native healers
[clearing throat]
(It was) my mother
who used to heal
through medicine
medicine for the children
and who used to massage
if you had a strained back or whatever your injury was, she would do the massage
but she was treating mostly children
My father
topical
if there was an injury he used to apply topical medicine
that is what he did
so then
that that is all
that was most of their work, ehh
ehh, for them to heal
children, my mom
primarily my mom
more who um
who would ah do more healing than my father
my father rarely did medicine unless it was an injury/sore
my mother
uh um many people were massaged by her
many were massaged, when you were in an accident, they were massaged
if uh, you strain your back, that... like
which is tense
she massaged you to remove your tension
if ah if uh
if ah
If you sprained yourself, y'know? Like if [you] sprained your leg
ah
you were now massaged so that it would, would...
ah
primarily the muscle ah
she
she removes the muscle tension
so then that was, ehh like, almost every day
there were people who ca-- came to us so that they could be healed
when it was children
almost almost-- most of the sickness is with uh the phlegm
where they already tried to
remove it by medicine, (by) the doctor
she put medicine to
to make the phlegm come out
from the child
so, many were healed, my mother healed many
so
So, I had one sibling, but they passed already, they used to make(cook) the medicine
but, ah
and my mom and my dad made medicine, they would bring the leaves to them
it was entirely leaves that
medicinal leaves that they(the sibling) used to prepare
so that one sibling would make medicine and it used to, y'know, but they didn't, ah
they(sibling) did not get, ah
just when you wanted medicine
and then wh-- when when they would go get medicine
that's when they would make it
but they(sibling) would not do that every day
but that sibling is no longer around
but they just, they just, they just might have, m-- they might have
followed my mother('s profession)
We just-- mostly no, the rest of us didn't, we didn't follow
she didn't make-- she didn't make--
she didn't make us join them, my mom and dad
you need to be very dedicated
to that type of
work, y'know, you need
you need to have it in your heart to do that every day, because
they are trusting you
and also you need to believe
it's you who must believe, y'know?
so it was us, you know, the, the children my mother and my father...
six
six
so as for us, di-- they didn't, they didn't, they didn't force us, my mom and dad, to follow them
yeah
it's not, um
they saw that we were not
that we weren't very
that we weren't very interested
she saw it, she saw it
no
no nothing
no she never asked us
not not
they preferred
for us to be in school
because
ah, the visitor, y'know
were a bother in the house
often there were there were people at the house
there was no privacy for you, there wasn't any time for you to study
because you are waiting for them to go, for them to go to their houses
so then you can eat dinner
so that then you could study so not--
my mom and dad just saw that we weren't interested in that kind of work
yeah
it just, it just
it just felt, that's their
that's their profession, that's their choosing
she didn't force us
no, my mom was a housewife, my father was a gardener for the governor's house
he was a gardener there
but ah
uh ah, that was their only work
y'know, just ah, farming?
my dad just did farming, y'know
my mom
housewife and ahm care- caregiver
Ma'ina-- Ma'ina is our village
that area was my dad's side
but in fact
uh ah
my mom's side was more ah
that I grew up with
my cousins from my mother's side
so then um
Ma'ina
Ma'ina
my dad was originally from Anigua
my mom, my mom, my mom was originally from Hulåle'
and my father, they've got land up there at Nimitz Hill
they were given land which
belonged to their forefathers and uh they farmed up there
that was their purpose up there in Ma'ina, to farm
but all the time they went to the beach to
to fish also, but
they were originally from Hagåtña and Anigua'
yeah
so then um
Ma'ina is a small village
and like ah
so I know more of, of my mom's side of the family
my dad's side
I know some but not a lot
I know the Terlajes from Teresa's dad
they were from Yo'ña
From the time I was born, in fact I had to learn, I had to learn English
At school. I had to learn English.
in umm Hagåtña
No, friend, I li-- I liked it.
and uh i used to take my dad when I had homework, I used to take my dad then and we would sit and I taught him
and I taught him English, my dad
yeah
yeah, so I-- I-- no I-- it-- did not make it difficult to know English
to know, you know
I guess that ah I was very ah
but yes, CHamoru only
my original tongue
nineteen forty-seven
yeah
I, I am the oldest girl who is alive
the very first born was a female, but died
so then I had two brothers before me, then me, then a girl, then a boy, then a girl
six survivors
yeah
yeah
oh, my mom is from the CHå (Tea) family
and family
da- like the drink fami- and from the Lachi (Wrong) family
yep, the Wrong family
and the Tea family
my dad, friend, my dad because you know I never did
was clear like what was his
my dad's family name but maybe they were named the Enna' family
but my mom was from the Tea family
my mom was Lizama-Mafnas
and the Lizam--
the Lizama
Wrong family were named that
the Mafnas were the Tea family
yes
yes, I have many Tea family uh relatives
The Tea family is in Barrigada
Yes, the Mafnas nai, there were many many many Mafnas in Barrigada
The Liazama's were all spread out
yeah
that's that's that's my knowledge, but my father, friend, I do not know what uh
the family's names were
Okay who were the sick?
uh many times they were children
many times because my mother was known
to be, ahm, herbal
so uh ah, the children came with colic
so my mother nai if if the child was very sick
she'd ask right away, "you already took him/her to the doctor?"
you already tried, you know, sometimes
just to get a background, y'know
she asked, "did you go to the doctor and it did not help the child"
so then she'll get into her business
so then ahm
she would make
herbal and she would add like ah
something to, ahm...
to... to make the child cough, yeah?
so then she would ehh
stick her hand into
scrape out whatever's choking that child
and she would make them vomit
so there were many children that came because that was her reputation
she was doing herbal medicine
my dad, and she would massage
there were many that liked to be massaged, sometimes my mom would be massaging for 2 hours
those that wanted to be massaged was for tension
so ahm there were those who were in an accident, you know whatever suffering they they had with their back or their neck
so
so those who were in accidents, those eh.. eh...
wanted to be massaged to relieve their tension and ah
some would come, friend, just to be massaged, those elder, were sometimes
they maybe just came to be massaged
so uh
so then, but but mostly, mostly herbal that that the children come to our house for, my dad did those that sometimes were swollen, y'know?
sometimes they had swelling and they did not want to go to or or whatever
and there were times when my dad would just take his saliva and rub it in
to see what happens
my dad was funny, dear
but my dad would pound the medicine whatever pou-- whatever uh herbal he pounded and sometimes would apply it
and usually its um
you know just bruises or something nai some unknown
unknown illness that crops up on the skin
then he would promptly rub the medicine in
so if
you know
that- that's it
to just see if it works
my mom did not ask for payment
she did not ask but from the happiness of the
Yeah from happiness-- just from their happiness did they give payment
she never refused it, though [laughing]
no
no, they did no bring over food
only that only ahm that ahm
only if they gave payment
but it was not a lot, y'know, it was not big, whatevers whatever they
whatever they can give her
yeah
just out of the
you know
they gave from the kindness of their heart
I don't know that, friend
ah ah what was the question?
for the priest
i don't-- oh I don't--
that was their lifestyle
my mom was taught by her mom and her dad
so she kinda grew up with her own family being local healers
my dad was just his own thing
but ahm that that's
they they just practiced it
since they were younger
from their own household
yes I believe
yes I believe, I saw many they helped
there were many they helped
i believe but it was not imperative for me
that was not not not
for me to r-- for me to run after
oh
they they they just told each other the people
they just told each other
whoever's child is sick
sometimes there were many, sometimes from the same family
like, they would come two or three times
so it's a word of mouth among the locals
li- like I said nai, my mother would know more of her medicine
my father knew more of ... of his actions... it was like...
he was left to himself with his knowledge
so word of mouth
for me when when when
ahm
I don't wanna be negative
but it was bothersome
that is it bothered me
um for there to be people at our house, because there were times that we were not even awake and already people were arriving
and sometimes they would leave late at night
so ah freedom around my house was sometimes like restricted because there were visitors
so it never -it never
it never ahm i never said "it never said, 'oh I wanna do that"
not not joy, it was not a jump for me, y'know
for that so- because I did consider it kind of like an invasion of privacy for one
and um it's not that I didn't believe it because it-- I s-- I did see the results, very, very, very very positive results
and there were many times they they they were appreciative of my mother and her actions
but ahm
moreover, the times have changed, yeah?
I'm-- I mean I wasn't a homebound, I wasn't destined to be a homebound
I was out
learning and y'know beyond that
frame of household, y'know
so then um it was not important, it did not not not enter my heart
and like I said
you have to believe and you need to dedicate yourself to that type of work
it was a huge dedication yeah
yes they felt the same
we were up, y'knoe, we were-- we were
going outside of the framework of that
that
ahm
profession
I put water, I put eye droplets in my eye and now I'm tearing
No, I'll use this little dry
end
it
um
when I put eye droplets in for the redness
then it creates
tears
it takes away the dryness
so... okay, but I will have a drink
is it clear for you?
you understand?
you understand, uh
am I echoing?
From what, the traditional healing practice?
No, friend
no
no
like, just the doctor, y'know
There is one uh lady, named Rosalia Mateas
They made that lady join at FA-
FESPAC? PACFES?
She was the one that almost
she was the one that wanted to learn from my mother
and she'll always give my mother credit
so she was the lady that was healing at the time and I think that she like, taught medicine right?
so that, that is the only lady to my knowledge that followed my mother and
like I said all the time she gave credit to my mother's teaching, y'know?
because that lady had many kids
and uh [laughing]
often were sick when they were kids right? so she really believed in it and
she wanted to be a native healer and so I-- she became a native healer so I know of her as one
that learned from my mother
mm Rosalia? Yes.
Fejeran
and she married a Mateo
Fejeran
I think she is just from Tamuning
Like secret? Secret knowledge of theirs?
in their trade?
as a native healer?
Nothing, no they
No secret if no
no, no
There was no voodo magic
nothing no
my father would, y'know, sometimes uh uh ah
he would surprise us with when he heals sometimes
sometimes uh n--
as if what he did was unbelievable or whatever you know
so
it-- it wasn't a secret, I mean he wasn't trying to do anything funny but
there were times that
the results were surprising
but that's about it, just--
but no secrets
I-- because
many are old and have died
and
uh
there are not many
that want
it could be
it could be phasing out
and um
um
because the rest, because there were many healers in my mom's time
there were still fairly many
Yigo and maybe Barrigada and
however maybe all those elderly have passed
including my own parents of course
they have left, they have already died
and I did not hear, friend, there isn't a single one I heard that
that were interested
from the youth yeah
yeah
Rosalia may know more of that question
well
they--
they want to
they they they want to try their very very best
if, if the first time the child did not get well
my mom would say, "bring them over again tomorrow" until she saw absolutely nothing
she could do
so it's, uh, determination
to heal the child
that's, that's the connection there in the modern doctor and uh um
my mother would not refuse herself
they never turn anybody away
so that's that's another thing they--
She couldn't- not all the time- she'll just give it a try
and ahm
so its ah its dedication
for her to heal people
is similar
I don't--, I don't know but, like, when we say when, like
if the child was becoming severely (ill)
my mom would sometimes ask, "did you take them to the doctor? And nothing (resolved), it didn't help?
they said, "yes my dear elder, I tried, I tried already and it didn't help." So she would say, "okay, come and we'll try."
so so there were times, y'know, that without question she would take them
but there were also times that she would ask, "Have you already brought them to the doctor?"
it depends
I-- I don't really know their... what their
main ah main steps but
its all kinds it wasn't
oh I am sure yeah maybe, I am sure, maybe there is an example of that
I mean it's not always a guarantee, y'know?
No
yes for when
we would get the medicine
mostly my brothers did that for her
because they would go into the jungle or
to the middle*** of the ocean to get these types of medicine
and... and really that's about it
if-- and sometimes if she needed it to be hand pounded, sometimes she asked us, sometimes she asked us to hand pound it
but more often they were just the ones to be doing that
my dad, it was really just him doing his medicine
he hand pounded his medicine
my mom
if she needed medicine she would ask
sometimes she would ask the patient
the patient's family to
go and get the medicines
and or sometimes she would ask my sibling but mostly the families she would ask, "go my son and get the medicine, etc."
if she knew the person
if she didn't know them, ah then ah one of my sibling
No, nothing special
What type of patient?
not really, no
i-- its just kind of a routine
not really
no
only the child sometimes that couldn't breathe due to its colic
those were the most difficult
because it was necessary to... to scub out with her finger, y'know
that was difficult, and she made the child vomit, she made the child the vomit
take it out
I don't know
no I don't-- I don't understand
mm
I don't know if I can give an opinion on that
not not
not
well
I don't search for words, I mean I don't know
Are there-- are there what?
Is there talk
I heard about about uh native healers?
oh
Did they have a language?
That I don't hear today?
no
I don't have a-- I don't have a -- I can't answer that question 'cause I'm not in contact with native healers
That's not a thing, probably, massaging sides
Guam, I-- no
maybe there are not many native healers massaging
that I know of yeah
y-- for my mother, for my mother only
the tensions
if if you have a limp when, like
if you have a sprain
um she'll
she'll massage the the the the muscle around it
and ah
or tension, they were tense over here
she'll... just regular massaging like any othe masseur
she'll
massage like that
and so
those masseurs that are working today
I think they do the same thing, y'know, that they massage you today
yout tension, your muscle
ahm
Yes there were times they would say, right?, that there's like, there's like, there's like powers that they have, yeah?
sometimes, like, they'd say that
and ah my dad nai
sometimes like he'd say, "it's like," dear, "that that old man has a spirit", y'know?
and y'know it's, it's a, it's
kind of like
um
kind of like, yes, like they had their, uh
healing power
Like they have their healing power
so
you can freely call that spirit when, when you get sick, freely
but uh ahm
Its like they had powers that they could treat and could heal, like that was a big thing that...
you know
nes-- yeah
oh no, never-- no they don't have, they don't have a--
They never consulted [with those spirits], none of that
none of that, like that only just their
aura
you know that
their own
like they have spirit
no
none of that, none
there's no magic
[laughing]
there's no voodoo
it's just really just a willingness to do a-- to t-- to have, y'know, the power to heal
of of their powers?
of their powers to heal
no
it's kind of like a job everyday
yeah
that you know they looked at the person, saw what they needed
then they
did what they continued to do
year round, year round they would be healing
I went to school in Hagatna
Agana Elementary School
and then I transferred to Adelup
Adelup used to be an elementary school
"where the..."
the governor's office is right now
that used to be an elementary school
so I went to elementary school
there
so then I went to GW in Mongmong, the old GW with the quonset hut
I went to that school
then I finally graduated at JFK
the first year that JFK was called JFK
'cause before that
that used to be Tumon High School
I graduated from JFK
then I went to College
yes
I went to America, I went to California
and I was taking classes here and there
so then when I came back, I ki-- i finally
finished my, um...
here at UOG
I worked for the federal government
I was a managerial...
contracting officer, I was an--
uh, manager
I was a contracting officer so I know a little about...
paralegal stuff
no my boyfriend did not ask me
he didn't want to
No, friend. Yeah
he didn't want to, he'd a-- I asked him, I said
"do you want us to get married?", he said, "No"
[laughing]
so that's it
Ai they were almost neighbors, y'know, because one person was from Aniguak and the other from Hulåle'
Guess what!
Guess what!
my dad went over to my mom and was massaged by my mom
ah he went over there to be massaged
my dad my dad went over there and
to be massaged by my mom
so he was massaged by my mom
and from there on, it was love!
isn't that funny?
oh boy, I think they were...
in their late...
in-- in their-- in their very early twenties maybe? I don't know
or, y'know, in their late teens, maybe?
but they were almost neighbors
so then
he notices that because the lady was doing massages and like, you know, he sort of liked her, y'know?
so he pretended to be sick and went to be massaged
he went and got massaged
so y'know, then they
then he proposed to her or whatever and
the two married
my mom is ah
1915 and my dad 1908
I believe
or, nu, nineteen twenty-one? No-
Oh dear, I don't know. I forgot.
Nineteen twenty-one maybe my mom
and my father, I can't remember, honestly it's terrible, I can't remember now what year
"it's on their graves, but..." [laughing] eh
No? Ah oh-- you?
are there more that
that you want to know?
ahm
we
I feel, ooh, this is sort of um-- it's a story
but, um
when--
yeah, yeah, so um ...when the when the
sometimes people would come and not- sometimes they would visit
or that we think would visit, but did not visit
one time uh um my sibling came to eat lunch, y'know
and uh he heard a car, y'know
getting up he said, 'shit'
he-- he just sat down, he just sat down to eat and there was a visitor when when
so he waited, y'know, he waited y'know until no more visitors arrived
but he still heard it, he still heard a car arrive
he still heard it and and to to us that was a sign that someone visited us so that kind of a memory
also, um
ah
the the
that kind of.. kind of
and and we think that there are those that died and those that come to visit, like that kind, but
in their particular job
uh not not
not many um
not many-- there wasn't, uh
there was no particular
favorite story or anything like that
but but but it
only that I-- it... it's um
it's kind of, um
after thing that that
like mm, w-- like there were visitors that would just come and did not did not need to be treated
it it just
that's what we recollect sometimes
us children
that
okay, that's one experience, and then, you know, uh
there are yet more but but I
I, I can't remember it all right now
"that's the one thing that I remember"
very physical
that a vehicle came
nothing else
very physical
nothing else
but
other than that
many would come
ai there were times that we were not even awake yet
yes
yeah
but but they were nevous that the the-- y'know they want to get the child as quickly as possible over to the native healer because
but they were up all night and they they they were nervous for their children
so they come very early sometime
the
yeah
so
but um
that-- that's it really
y'know that that kinda stands out
this is the... after--afterlife or something
for uh
a little remembrance
or
yeah
that's kinda what you were looking for?
done
done already?
Okay, friend, ay, so then
ah
ah, hopefully they were-- this was a help to the stud-- your study
jbpt - Use of /ha/ here translates to they, I am not sure if this is singular occurence or a common one, or a natural merging of he/she/it combined with they/them over time
She may be just talking about her mom I am guessing due to her mom being the one home all the time
taigi---short for taiguihi
GW = George Washington High School
JFK = John F. Kennedy High School
GCC = Guam Community College
okay
CH_2021-09-27_BT_01_Suruhanu,Suruhana
Project title: NSF Grant Developing CHamoru Language Infrastructure
Goggue yan CHachalani Mo'na i Fino'-ta
Interviewer: Fu'una Sanz
Interviewer: Fu'una Sanz
giya [at] - Kumision Fino' CHamoru, CHamoru Language Comission
September 27, 2021
3:10pm
Recording format: WAV format 96 kbps at 24 bit depth
Topic is on suruhånu yan suruhåna
Pedro Camacho Lujan Elementary School in East Barrigada, Guam
David Ruskin, recorder, in background: "um, I was going to ask if you needed something for your eyes"
DR, recorder, background, "Only... I'm still learning, but uh, parts are, some parts are coming through"
Request to adjust lavalier mic, and mic adjustment
FestPAC = The Festival of Pacific Arts, a festival held every 4 years celebrating the cultures of the Pacific
dr -- "uh, I'm a little curious if there are any um favorite memories that you have of your parents and their practice"
dr -- "sort of any moments where-- I know you said you weren't called to the profession but any moments as a child where where you were thinking, 'um maybe, this is a really interesting experience or memory'"
dr -- "and, actually, um, I'm-- I'm sorry, I know the question was in English, but could it, could you, tr--, could you reply in CHamoru?"
dr - "great, thank you"
Janice Toves, project manager -- hunggan